Wednesday, January 30, 2013

On the News With Thom Hartman

Subject: On the News With Thom Hartman

When faced with a moral delemma, and you are faced with upholding two commitments, which one trumps which one? 
John Kiriakou, CIA whistle blower, is sentenced to 30 months for apparently making the wrong choice. 
In taiking his possition with the CIA, John placed his hand on a Bible and swore to defend and uphold the Constitution of the United States of America. 
At the same time he pledged to not expose confidential CIA secrets. 
That was back when he believed that the CIA lived by that same Constitution he had promised to defend. 
That was before he discovered that the CIA was lying when it said publicly that the USA did not use torture.  He learned that not only did the CIA permit such methods as water boarding, but also sleep deprivation and what they called the Cold Room. 
So now suppose that you are John Kiriakou, sworn to uphold two contridicting pledges. 
Do you blow the whistle on the CIA, or do you protect your comrades as they go about the business of secret torture? 
Such decisions are not confined to our government's most secret of agencies.  Think of having to decide if you should report your fellow officer for taking hush money, when you have sworn to uphold your brother/sister police officers.  If you blow the whistle, what happens to your career? 
What about the Bishop who discovers that one of his priests is "dipping the wick" in the rumps of Alter Boys?  You are committed to defend the Church.  How do you go about that pledge? 
Or here's one I had the priviledge of dealing with.  We spent years developing a program in our agency.  It now was among the three top such programs nationally.  I, and others, began to suspect that the program supervisor was mismanaging the program resources.  We had to take immediate action.  Our choices were to bring charges against the man or move him outside the agency. 
To expose him could impact the program, and with it the livelihoods of a large number of blind people.  To move him out of the agency meant "rewarding" him with an opportunity he couldn't resist.  Neither choice was a good one. 
Unless you've had to make such choices you have no idea of how it tears at your very fiber. 
I salute John Kiriakou for his bravery in standing true to his commitment to protect and uphold our Constitution at all costs. 
And I hope that President Obama removes the charge and drops the 30 month sentence.  Since Obama refuses to go after the torturers who are making our nation look like all other Terrorist Nations, then at least let's not prosecute our brave friends. 
 
Carl Jarvis
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    From: On the News with Thom Hartman. 

 

In America, if you commit a war crime and torture someone – nothing happens to you. But if you blow the whistle on this war crime – then get ready to go to jail. On Friday, CIA whistleblower, John Kiriakou, was sentenced to 30 months in jail, for releasing classified information that exposed the CIA's use of waterboarding. Kiriakou is one of six current, or former, government officials, who've been slapped with criminal charges from the Obama administration for leaking classified information. That's more crackdowns on government whistleblowers than all other Presidential administrations combined. We should not be jailing brave individuals who exposed war crimes in an effort to stop them. But, we should be locking up George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and the rest of their ilk, who knowingly allowed the United States to become a nation that tortures. It will take a long time to heal the deep moral wounds these men inflicted on our nation.

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Sunday, January 27, 2013

just who should pay to educate our future Americans?


Good morning John,
Certainly that is one approach to gaining both an education and learning financial responsibility.  I say, learning financial responsibility because I want to believe that we agree that most responsible parents are teaching their children to be responsible Beings. 
But why demand that our children pay for the education that we hope and pray they will put to good use as adults?  Are we not preparing them to take over the serious business of advancing our well being as a nation?  Don't we expect them to lead America into greener pastures than we were able to do?  Why do we always place a dollar value to everything we do?  Money is not our God.  But hope, and belief in our future comes closer.  If we have enough Faith in our own children to lead us into a brighter future, isn't it enough that we be the ones to sacrifice and pay for their education?  After all, the education is not free.  It is a question of who pays for it.  I say that it must be us who put up the dollars.  The parents, grandparents and believers in children.  We are leaving them a big enough mess that they will have plenty to do without having to buy back their freedom. 
 
Carl Jarvis
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Wcb-l] Harvard University Announcement/free tuition for low incomestudents

Hello Carl and others:
Why not get a loan, and then pay it back later, when a person gets a job. They could even implement something like an automatic  deduction out of their pay check.
Get an education, and learn responsibility at the same time.
Regards,
 
John McConnell
 

just being myself


Hi Jessie and List,
Sometimes we set up Strawmen/women and swing away at them while we ignore the central issue. 
I would propose that we get past this matter of trying to be as good as sighted people, or comparing ourselves to them, or trying to imitate them.  This is not to be construed as my wanting to be separate but equal.  I advocate working with, associating with, recreating with and marrying sighted people.  I even support having sighted children(I have 3 of my own, just to prove it). 
In fact, allow me to introduce myself. 
I am Carl Allen Jarvis, the Interdependent Blind Man.  I am a unique individual, fully functional and capable of adjusting myself, with the help of my fellow human beings,  to live in the world. 
I am as complex and as diverse in my strengths and weaknesses as are all human beings.  I constantly evaluate my beliefs and attitudes to correct or adjust them as new information occurs.  I try to understand my limitations, but do my best to be certain that I am not allowing my prejudices to close my mind.  As I grow older, I adjust my activities, even as I went through a major adjustment when I became blind. 
My bottom line is that in no way do I want to be as good as sighted people.  It is my goal to be as good as it is possible for me to be.  That is a full time job. 
 
Carl Jarvis
 

Blind persons and mobility instructors

Blind persons and mobility instructors

Joe, Chris, Jessie, Ann, Ken, Dianne, Natalie, Holly, Frank, Alexis, and Heaven knows Who Else. 
 
Joe cuts straight to the heart of this discussion when he writes, "Presumptions against blind folks being O and M instructors or limitations upon them are clearly discriminatory on there face and violate the letter and spirit of the ADA, Section 504 and the Constitution of the United States of America (14th Amendment, Article V, (equal protection and due process clause)".
 
When we decide that a blind individual cannot train or teach O&M to blind people, we become no different than all of the sighted people over all of the years who said that blind people could not attend public school, work in food service, teach school, work in competetive employment of any sort, based on their belief that blindness was too severe of a handicap.   Very few who have responded to this conversation have asked, "How can a blind person teach O&M?" or, "Under what conditions might a blind O&M instructor provide such services?" 
No, the majority jump right in shaking their heads and declaring that under no circumstances would they ever allow a blind O&M instructor to teach them. 
Don't we sound just exactly like all those oppressive agency administrators down through the years?  "Put them in a safe place, a Workshop where they can feel productive while we take care of them". 
"You mustn't build your hopes too big.  After all, you are blind."  Or, Be grateful that there are those who care enough for you that we go to the trouble of providing for your wants." 
 
As a Rehabilitation Teacher who has taught cane travel and orientation to many blind people, I will never take a student into a place I would not feel confident traveling by myself.  And trust me, there are many such places in this frantic, mad nation.  But I have taken blind students into very noisy, confusing situations when I am absolutely certain that they are safe with me. 
The example that comes to mind is our state fair at Puyallup(pronounced, Pew Al up). 
 Each year we took our students from the Adult Training Center to the Fair.  One of the largest in the nation, it is overflowing with activities, people, horses, vehicles, roving musicians(most dangerous), and many twisty little walk ways where one can become totally confused and lost. 
Except it is impossible to become totally lost in this confined space.  We never lost a single student.  But by taking in tow the totally blind students, I was able to drive home the lesson that we can become helplessly lost and find ourselves again.  And have fun doing it.  And all who came through unscathed were allowed to chip in and buy the Director icecream on a stick, or Indian Fry Bread, or an Elephant Ear. 
 
Carl Jarvis
 

Education is an investment

John,
Right you are.  Nothing in life is free.  But providing a thorough education to our youth is an investment and it does not come as a free ride to them.  We are putting our future in their hands and they will more than repay for the education we provide. 
 
Carl Jarvis
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Wcb-l] Harvard University Announcement/free tuition for low incomestudents

Hello all:
Nothing in life is free. The person should do something to compensate for this "free education."
I paid almost nothing in College, but I also used what I learned in ministering to the people, that was also true in Seminary. I
 went through school on a student loan, which I paid back.
Something for nothing sounds like academic welfare.
 
John McConnell
 
----- Original Message -----
To: wcb
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 8:44 AM
Subject: [Wcb-l] Harvard University Announcement/free tuition for low incomestudents

Do we know of any low income blind students? 
Carl Jarvis
Subject: [acb-l] Harvard University Announcement/free tuition for low income students

FYI!


Harvard University Announcement 

No tuition and no student loans


Harvard University announced over the weekend that from now on undergraduate students from low-income families will pay no tuition. In making the announcement, Harvard's president Lawrence H. Summers said, "When only ten percent of the students in elite higher education come from families in the lower half of the income distribution, we are not doing enough. We are not doing enough in bringing elite higher education to the lower half of the income distribution."

If you know of a family earning less than $60,000 a year with an honor student graduating from high school soon, Harvard University wants to pay the tuition. The prestigious university recently announced that from now on undergraduate students from low-income families can go to Harvard for free... no tuition and no student loans!

To find out more about Harvard offering free tuition for families making less than $60,000 a year, visit Harvard's financial aid website at: http://www.fao.fas.harvard.edu/
or call the school's financial aid office at (617) 495-1581.


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when pigs can fly...

Dick,
Don't lose your beauty sleep over this one.  It will pass when pigs can fly and Peter Pan grows a beard. 
Frankly, I have opposed the term limit just as strongly as I oppose super majority votes.  A majority vote ensures that the will of the majority will be carried out.  A two-thirds, or super majority vote, allows minority rule. 
Back on the term limits.  We are silly ducks if we think that this foolishness is protecting our democracy.  We need some major overhaul of our House of Cards in order to protect what liberty and democracy we still have. 
We can start by removing corporate citizenship, and placing tight controls on the functions of each corporation.  This would include an expiration date, that must be renewed after a thorough review. 
We might consider removing the archaic Electoral College. 
A reform of the congressional redistricting might make elections fairer.  And opening the elections to political parties other than the Two-Headed Party currently hogging all elections. 
Just some rambling thoughts. 
 
Carl Jarvis
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 8:03 AM
Subject: H.J.Res. 15:

All:

Found the following this morning.

H.J.Res. 15: Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the twenty-second article of amendment, ...

...of amendment, thereby removing the limitation on the number of terms an individual may serve as President.

Introduced:
Jan 04, 2013 (113th Congress, 2013–2015)
Sponsor:
Rep. José Serrano [D-NY15]
Status:
Referred to Committee

The resolution's title was written by the resolution's sponsor. H.J.Res. stands for House joint resolution.

Track this bill


Implication is that this is how Mr. Obama is going to try for a third term.

R. E. (Dick) Driscoll, Sr.


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ambulance chasers

Dick,
When you say, "Ambulance Chaser", are you speaking of those unscrupulous weasley lawyers who rush in, trying to make a quick buck off someone's misery? 
Or are you speaking of attorneys who are sworn to protect the interests of folks currently in no position to defend themselves from the pressures brought to bear by insurance companies who have only their own best interests at heart? 
The insurance industry has worked hard to promote Ambulance Chasers as unscrupulous chiselers, interested in suing for their own profit. 
What then do we call those fine upstanding attorneys whose lips are pressed to the ample backsides of the insurance CEO's? 
 
Carl Jarvis
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: H.J.Res. 15:

Joe:
I agree and the man we have in office at the present time is one hell of a 'rock thrower' in my opinion.  Very dangerous from the legal standpoint.  Would have made a very successful ambulance chaser in my opinion.
R. E. (Dick) Driscoll, Sr.
On 1/25/2013 12:12 PM, joe harcz Comcast wrote:
You know once one throws a few rocks at Goliath sooner or later on is sure to hit its intended mark.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: H.J.Res. 15:

Ted:
While I tend to agree with you.  I find it interesting to note that there are people out there who are still trying and trying and trying.  Some day they may succeed!
R. E. (Dick) Driscoll, Sr.
On 1/25/2013 10:15 AM, ted chittenden wrote:
Dick:  The proposed Constitutional Amendment is going absolutely nowhere! For this Amendment to pass, 2/3 of the House would have to vote for it, then 2/3 of the Senate, and finally, it would have to be ratified by 2/3 of the states. And in absolutely *none* of these areas is 2/3 support available.  --  Ted Chittenden    Every story has at least two sides if not more.  ---- "R. E. Driscoll Sr" <llocsirdsr@att.net> wrote:   All:    Found the following this morning.        H.J.Res. 15: Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United    States to repeal the twenty-second article of amendment, ...    ...of amendment, thereby removing the limitation on the number of terms   an individual may serve as President.    Introduced:      Jan 04, 2013 (113^th Congress, 2013--2015)  Sponsor:      Rep. José Serrano [D-NY15]      <http://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/jose_serrano/400366>  Status:      Referred to Committee     The resolution's title was written by the resolution's sponsor. H.J.Res.   stands for House joint resolution.    Track this bill <http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hjres15#>  Take a Position   <http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hjres15/advocacy>      Implication is that this is how Mr. Obama is going to try for a third term.    R. E. (Dick) Driscoll, Sr.  (About Ads | Advertise Here) <http://www.govtrack.us/advertising>          _______________________________________________  Blind-Democracy mailing list  Blind-Democracy@octothorp.org  http://www.octothorp.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-democracy


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