Sunday, October 8, 2017

Re: [blind-democracy] FW: Top 5 Signs Donald Trump Might Be an Effing Moron

To Brian and Others who are Charmed by the Words of Donald Trump,
First and foremost Donald Trump is a Promoter. And that which he
promotes is Donald Trump. This, in and of itself, does not make
Donald Trump a liar. Top flight promoters look their product over and
enlarge the positive aspects while diminishing the negative. The old
example is the saying, "he can sell an icebox to and Eskimo". Despite
freezing weather, the promoter might focus on the fact that a good
icebox can be used to keep leftovers out of the way from pets and
small children. And the top of the icebox makes a fine shelf!
Donald Trump admittedly has done a fine job of selling Donald Trump.
How can we argue over his recent victory? But in spite of that
victory, Donald Trump remains nothing but a Flim Flam Man, the
incarnation of P.T. Barnum, who said, "There's a sucker born every
minute". This is not to take anything away from Donald Trump's skill
of deception. He has fooled enough voters to land himself in the
White House. This brings up the suggestion by Brian that Donald Trump
is the first outsider to win that high office. If you are saying that
he has no formal political experience, then that is true, assuming we
discount the dog fight that goes on among the "Captains of Industry".
And by the way, those are the skills Donald Trump is applying to his
new job. But many presidents came out of the backwoods and out from
under rocks. It's interesting that we quietly accept our nation
turning over our democracy to Generals. Talk about not having the
political tools to run this Republic? And of course we have the
Lawyers who have been trained in corporate firms...well, there was Abe
Lincoln, and used to the back stabbing tactics used in plying their
trade. But Donald Trump is the Poster Boy for the Corporate
Capitalists running this American Oligarchy. You can't get more "in"
than Donald Trump. And if you doubt that he is the Fair Hair Boy,
just look at the folks he's selected to serve on his Cabinet.
The difference between the past "Leaders" of our nation, and Donald
Trump, is that for the first time in our nation's history, the Ruling
Class has been forced to take the actual offices rather than merely
manipulating their highly paid puppets.
Based on my readings of past Empires, our once glorious land(if you
are White) is in its final death throes. My best advice is to do what
you can to take care of the ones you love the most.

Carl Jarvis


On 10/7/17, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@optonline.net> wrote:
> Below is a private response to the article that I posted, written by Juan
> Cole. I don't know why Brian chose to send this response privately, but I
> think it requires a public response from me and from anyone else who chooses
> to respond. I'd suggest that if you respond, you include Brian's address to
> ensure that he receives your response.
>
> First of all, running the country is not like running a business. People who
> run businesses, do so in order to profit financially. Running the country is
> a public trust. It requires a very different skill set and one does it in
> order to ensure that all citizens benefit equally from being Americans.
>
> Second: If you've read any books about Mr. Trump, you'd know that he has not
> been successful in business. He has been in debt most of the time. First, he
> was bailed out by his father. Then, he was bailed out by banks with which
> his father had influence. Additionally, he was involved in a lot of
> businesses with criminals all over the world, and although a great deal of
> money has passed through his hands, he has been involved in money laundering
> schemes and the actual amount of money that is his, is questionable. This is
> one of the reasons that he has refused to make his income tax returns
> public.
>
> Third: Mr. Trump lies constantly about most things and his lies are obvious
> and have been pointed out by many journalists. Everything that I've written
> about him above, has appeared in books and articles and interviews by
> investigative journalists.
>
> Miriam
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian [mailto:sackriderbrian45@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2017 6:36 PM
> To: Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@optonline.net>
> Subject: Re: [blind-democracy] Top 5 Signs Donald Trump Might Be an Effing
> Moron
>
> I think that Juan Coal is the efing moron here. Trump is a very
> sucessful business man and extremely wealthy. Is he? if he was a moron he
> would not have not gotten whear he is today. How many business owners have
> ever been president of the Usa? Running the country is just like a
> business. Trump is the first outsider to become president he is not bought
> and paid for. anyone will believes Juan is also a moron it's takes one to
> know one.
>
> Brian Sackrider
>
>
> On 10/6/2017 10:01 PM, Miriam Vieni wrote:
>> You'll be pleased to know that this comes from Reader Supported News
>> so I did manage to resubscribe.
>> Miriam
>>
>> Donald Trump. (photo: Alex Brandon/AP)
>>
>> Top 5 Signs Donald Trump Might Be an Effing Moron
>>
>> By Juan Cole, Informed Comment
>> 06 October 17
>>
>> Carol E. Lee at NBC reported Wednesday that last summer Rex Tillerson,
>> the secretary of state, called Trump a "f*cking moron." The remark
>> came after a number of incidents in which Trump had contradicted
>> Tillerson on policy, and directly after Trump made salacious remarks to a
>> crowd of boy scouts.
>> Tillerson at one point had led the Boy Scouts.
>>
>> The justice of Tillerson's remark is obvious. Here are some examples:
>>
>> 1. Trump joined with Saudi Arabia in beating up on little Qatar,
>> calling the small Gulf monarchy "terrorists." Qatar hosts the US Air
>> Force base al-Udeid and helped capture Khaled Sheikh Muhammad, proving
>> itself a key ally in fighting extremism. For Saudi Arabia to accuse
>> Qatar of fostering extremism is a bit rich, but Trump joined in.
>>
>> 2. The Iran nuclear deal is one of the more successful such
>> negotiations in modern history and a model for how the UN Security
>> Council could curb nuclear proliferation. Trump is determined to
>> undermine the deal, which would reinforce the suspicions and militancy
>> of countries such as North Korea, making it even more difficult to
>> handle.
>>
>> 3. Trump pulled out of the Paris climate accords on the grounds that
>> they are too constricting and detract from US sovereignty. But the
>> accords allow each nation to set its own priorities! Even Tillerson,
>> who when it comes to climate change, is Satan incarnate, wanted to
>> stay in Paris (I presume because it could be used as a fig leaf for
>> inaction on carbon dioxide emissions).
>>
>> 4. Trump went to Puerto Rico on Tuesday and made the presidency a
>> laughingstock. He maintained that Katrina had been a much more
>> devastating storm than Irma and that because they weren't actually
>> dead the Puerto Ricans weren't suffering as much. We don't know the
>> death toll in Puerto Rico because 95 percent of the island doesn't
>> have electricity and not all the dead have been found by institutions
>> of the commonwealth. Moreover, catastrophic hurricanes are not a race
>> where one state wins and another loses. Then Trump gave out supplies
>> at a church, including flashlights, but he remarked to recipients that
>> they didn't need flashlights any more. They do. He made hurricane relief
>> all about himself instead of about the victims.
>> It was so bizarre a performance that "moron" doesn't begin to cover it.
>>
>> 5. Trump gave away US foreign policy to Exxon Mobil, the big oil
>> company, which had been led by Mr. Tillerson up until his move to the
>> State Department. The US should be making a frantic and concerted
>> effort to get off fossil fuels, not coddling Big Oil interests.
>> Appointing Tillerson to run the State Department, and letting him gut
>> it in favor of lucrative oil deals for his former corporation is just
>> about the most moronic thing you could imagine.
>>
>>
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