Thursday, February 28, 2019

Machine learning 'causing science crisis'

Back in the early days of computers, they called it, GIGO.
Garbage In Garbage Out. This article should worry us as we prance
along the path following the Pied Pipers of Artificial
Intelligence(AI).
Look around the world and then ask yourself if you really want to be
in the grasp of an intelligence invented by the people who caused our
big international mess. AI? Artificial Insanity!

Carl Jarvis

Posted on 2/26/19: > Machine learning 'causing science crisis'
>
> Machine-learning techniques used by thousands of scientists to analyse data
> are producing results that are misleading and often completely wrong.
>
> Dr Genevera Allen from Rice University in Houston said that the increased
> use of such systems was contributing to a "crisis in science".
>
> She warned scientists that if they didn't improve their techniques they
> would be wasting both time and money. Her research was presented at the
> American Association for the Advancement of Science in Washington.
>
> A growing amount of scientific research involves using machine learning
> software to analyse data that has already been collected. This happens
> across many subject areas ranging from biomedical research to astronomy. The
> data sets are very large and expensive.
>
> 'Reproducibility crisis'
>
> But, according to Dr Allen, the answers they come up with are likely to be
> inaccurate or wrong because the software is identifying patterns that exist
> only in that data set and not the real world.
> Image copyright Rice University Image caption Dr Allen says flawed machine
> learning is producing a "crisis in science"
>
> "Often these studies are not found out to be inaccurate until there's
> another real big dataset that someone applies these techniques to and says
> 'oh my goodness, the results of these two studies don't overlap'," she
> said.
>
> "There is general recognition of a reproducibility crisis in science right
> now. I would venture to argue that a huge part of that does come from the
> use of machine learning techniques in science."
>
> The "reproducibility crisis" in science refers to the alarming number of
> research results that are not repeated when another group of scientists
> tries the same experiment. It means that the initial results were wrong. One
> analysis suggested that up to 85% of all biomedical research carried out in
> the world is wasted effort.
>
> It is a crisis that has been growing for two decades and has come about
> because experiments are not designed well enough to ensure that the
> scientists don't fool themselves and see what they want to see in the
> results.
>
> Flawed patterns
>
> Machine learning systems and the use of big data sets has accelerated the
> crisis, according to Dr Allen. That is because machine learning algorithms
> have been developed specifically to find interesting things in datasets and
> so when they search through huge amounts of data they will inevitably find a
> pattern.
>
> "The challenge is can we really trust those findings?" she told BBC News.
>
> "Are those really true discoveries that really represent science? Are they
> reproducible? If we had an additional dataset would we see the same
> scientific discovery or principle on the same dataset? And unfortunately the
> answer is often probably not."
> Image copyright Reuters Image caption Machine learning is also used in
> biomedical research
>
> Dr Allen is working with a group of biomedical researchers at Baylor College
> of Medicine in Houston to improve the reliability of their results. She is
> developing the next generation of machine learning and statistical
> techniques that can not only sift through large amounts of data to make
> discoveries, but also report how uncertain their results are and their
> likely reproducibility.
>
> "Collecting these huge data sets is incredibly expensive. And I tell the
> scientists that I work with that it might take you longer to get published,
> but in the end your results are going to stand the test of time.
>
> "It will save scientists money and it's also important to advance science by
> not going down all of these wrong possible directions."

Wednesday, February 27, 2019

Looking for the "Free" in free enterprise

They say there's no such thing as a free lunch. True enough, but we
ought to be able to afford it.
Take "Free Enterprise" for example.
Free Enterprise is a myth, and it's exposure is long overdue. Who
among us can rise to the challenge? Never fear. Corporate Capitalism
is doing the job for us.
Carl Jarvis
PS - The Baron Robbers named in this article are looked up to by many,
as successful, honorable citizens. They are not people I respect or
wish to hobnob with.
CJ

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Drug chiefs face Senate grilling on prices . Paige Winfield
Cunningham. Seven drug executives head to Capitol Hill on Tuesday for
a much-anticipated hearing
on the booming costs of prescription drugs in the United States. It's
the largest panel of pharmaceutical CEOs in decades to sit before a
congressional
committee, so expect sharp confrontations and pointed questions from
lawmakers about why these companies have hiked the price of their
medicines so dramatically.
The companies that will be represented at the Senate Finance Committee
hearing aren't the only ones responsible for big price increases over
the past two
decades. But the list prices on many of their top-selling medications
have drawn ire on and off Capitol Hill, prompting vows by President
Trump and top
committee leaders in Congress - including Finance Chairman Charles E.
Grassley (R-Iowa) and the committee's top Democrat, Ron Wyden (D-Ore.)
- to investigate
and intervene. The last thing these executives want to hear from
lawmakers is any reference to what they regard as government
price-fixing, either through
a Medicare experiment promised by Health and Human Services Secretary
Alex Azar or a more drastic policy pushed by Democrats to allow the
government to
directly negotiate the prices of Medicare prescription drugs. So, as
the executives are confronted by the lawmakers, they may stress a need
for better
policies to promote "biosimilar" drugs (drugs that closely mirror
approved medicines) as a way of introducing more competition. Here are
the executives
who will sit before the Finance Committee - and some specific
prescription drugs they could be asked to defend: l Albert Bourla, CEO
of Pfizer You've probably
seen television ads for Lyrica - a medication for nerve pain used by
patients with fibromyalgia, diabetes and spinal cord injuries. Its
list price - around
$650 for a bottle of 90 pills - has increased 163 percent since 2012.
Pfizer has been allowed to sell the medication exclusively since 2004,
and last year
was granted an additional six months of exclusivity after getting the
drug approved to treat seizures in children. That got the attention of
Wyden, who
wrote to the company in December, demanding an explanation of how much
money Lyrica generates and why the company says more price increases
are necessary.
l Richard Gonzalez, CEO of AbbVie There's one massively profitable
drug Gonzalez probably will be asked to defend, and that is AbbVie's
Humira. The arthritis
drug, which makes up 63 percent of the company's net revenue, has more
than doubled in price over the past six years, from about $19,000
annually in 2012
to more than $38,000 now. AbbVie raised Humira's price another 6.2
percent last month. Lawmakers have increasingly cited Humira and
Lyrica as prime examples
of unreasonable price hikes. House Oversight Committee Chairman Elijah
E. Cummings (D-Md.) named them as the two top-selling drugs with the
steepest price
increases for 2017 in a May 2018 report from committee Democrats on
drug prices in the first year of the Trump administration. l Pascal
Soriot, CEO of
AstraZeneca The high-cholesterol drug Crestor, also named in the
Democratic report, is an example of how makers of branded drugs will
often increase prices
right before a generic competitor is introduced. Crestor cost about
$300 in 2016 but has undergone several price hikes since then,
including a 15 percent
increase right before a generic version came out. l Kenneth Frazier,
CEO of Merck Merck has taken great pains with its public image,
announcing last year
that it would cut list prices by at least 10 percent for several of
its drugs and promising the net price of its medicines wouldn't grow
faster than inflation.
Yet, as the Wall Street Journal has noted, the company hasn't lowered
prices for some of its top-selling drugs, including its immunotherapy
cancer drug
Keytruda (whose list price is $13,500 per month) and Januvia, a
non-insulin drug that helps lower the blood sugar of Type 2 diabetic
patients. l Olivier
Brandicourt, CEO of Sanofi Insulin - a drug that is essential to the
survival of diabetic patients, particularly those with Type 1 diabetes
- is getting
increasing attention in the cost debate, considering prices for this
medication have skyrocketed by more than 500 percent in some cases.
Sanofi will be
the only one of the big three insulin makers represented at the
hearing, so Brandicourt probably will get a lot of targeted questions.
Sanofi increased
the price for its long-acting insulin, Lantus, 77 percent from 2013 to
2019, Grassley and Wyden wrote in a letter to the company on Friday
announcing a
bipartisan investigation into insulin prices. The lawmakers also noted
that the price of two widely used short-acting insulins, Eli Lilly's
Humalog and
Novo Nordisk's Novolog, increased 585 percent and 87 percent,
respectively, during the same period. "These hardships can lead to
serious medical complications
that are entirely preventable and completely unacceptable for the
world's wealthiest country," the senators wrote. "In addition, the
increased price of
insulin has caused federal programs to pay more for diabetes care . .
. When one insulin product costs the taxpayer more than a billion
dollars in one
year, the American people ought to know how the company prices its
product. l Giovanni Caforio, CEO of Bristol-Myers Squibb Lawmakers
could raise concerns
about Bristol-Myers Squibb's acquisition of Celgene, which would be
one of the largest pharmaceutical mergers. Under the deal,
Bristol-Myers Squibb would
gain access to several cancer drugs, including the multiple myeloma
treatment Revlimid. Revlimid's price has risen 79 percent since 2012.
l Jennifer Taubert,
executive vice president of Janssen Pharmaceuticals, which is owned by
Johnson & Johnson (CEO Alex Gorsky was invited but won't be present)
Johnson & Johnson
is one of the companies that drew negative attention by announcing
price hikes around the beginning of the year. Some of the company's
best-selling products
- including blood thinner Xarelto, psoriasis treatment Stelara and
Zytiga, a prostate cancer drug - will be subject to price increases.
And Janssen Pharmaceuticals,
owned by Johnson & Johnson, was crafting a strategy last year to
change the size of tablets for a blood-cancer drug called Imbruvica
that typically costs
$148,000 annually. The new pricing plan would ensure taking lower
doses wouldn't save patients money or cut into Janssen's revenue, as
The Washington Post's
Carolyn Johnson reported.

There's no such thing as a free lunch...but at these prices there's no such thing as Lunch!

Wednesday, February 20, 2019

Re: [blind-democracy] Re: Racism in America and a quick intro to Islam

Actually, Mostafa, protecting Israel is not the major objective of the
American Empire. Protecting the right of the Oil Barons to plunder,
is the actual goal. Israel is simply an outpost base. While it
appears that Israel has a strong hold on the American Empire, so does
Saudi Arabia. It's all done to protect exploitation, the theft of
others possessions. The strong nations manipulate the weaker nations
in order to plunder and become even more powerful. Remember how the
USA quietly assisted Nazi Germany prior to World War II, in the belief
that Germany would weaken Russia. The USA feared Communism far more
than it feared the Gestapo.
But watch the transition that is currently taking place.
International Corporations are gaining so much power and so much
money, that they are beginning to replace weak governments. Rather
than simply controlling governments, they are replacing them. And in
so doing, these "new governments" are turning you against me, Muslim
against Christian, against Jew, against Blacks, against Whites,
against Brown, against Gays, against working people. And while you
and others quibble as to whether or not some Great Being hovers above
us, we are being turned into slaves, owned by these emerging Mega
Corporate Governments. Our efforts to prove that our beliefs are the
true ones is playing right into the hands of our soon to be Masters.
These Corporate Behemoths do not believe in God, nor in Allah, nor in
any religion except Greed. And Greed knows no God other than Greed,
itself.
Frankly Mostafa, I grow very tired of watching you and others charging
windmills while the roof is falling in.

Carl Jarvis


On 2/19/19, Mostafa Almahdy <mostafa.almahdy@gmail.com> wrote:
> Roger, don't flee my questions. Where did you get your information
> about the Koran and prophet Muhammad from? Don't attempt to change the
> subject, even if I am as bad as you claim, still, answer my questions.
> Your alleged degree in biology is doubted until you present it to me
> in physical form. Isn't that your logic?, that you don't believe in
> something that hasn't been empirically examined? Well, even if the
> whole world saw your averred qualification in Biology, I still have
> the right to verify your claim myself. Roger, your gravely impacted
> with self-delusion. I therefore urge you to speedily seek mental
> therapy. There are many of these services available in your country as
> plenty of people get deranged periodically therein. It isn't my prob
> that you are rationally misted. You may need to double check your
> intelligence quotient rate. Despite your opinion of what I am doing, I
> have the right to express my views on the internet or wherever. Even
> if you consider this harassment or bullying, I still have the right to
> demonstrate my perspective in the manner I deem appropriate. Isn't
> that the practical definition of first amendment that is principally
> bound to your country's prestigious constitution? Even if it wasn't, I
> still have the right to present myself independently, without
> intimidation or unnecessary flattery. I still, await your answers mr
> edified, where did you get your information about the Koran and
> prophet Muhammad from? You're reminding me of Floridian pastor Terry
> jones, when he arrogantly desecrated the Koran out of malice hitherto,
> he ironically confessed that he never read the Koran. You're exactly
> doing the same thing but in somewhat a different way. You are free to
> consider all religions mythical or whatever, but, you do not have
> moral grounds to attempt to deceive us with exercising sophistry. In
> spite of the fact that you haven't commented nor even mentioned the
> video I cited in my previous post about the mention of black holes in
> the Koran, I still need to know your source of information about
> prophet Muhammad and the Koran. First off, I am a devout Sunni Muslim.
> Second, theology and Islamic theology to be even more specific is
> basically my major. These two basic contentions are vitally sufficient
> to ask you for citation. I ask you and anyone here to respect my
> specialty. This list is not established to discuss faith related
> issues. I knew that but, if you just look at the title of this post,
> it was meant to discuss the racial crisis in the United States. Roger
> insisted to turn this into faith debate. He did the same thing when I
> wrote about the Saudi girl who fled to Canada for fame and had been
> used for essentially political purposes by the Canadian government.
> I'm not sure, why is he insisting to enter in a heated clash with me?
> I don't force my views on others. At the same time, I have no
> intention to hide them because they are simply part of me, my culture
> and what I represent. Am I expected to falsely be somehow americanised
> in my character to be tolerated? Frankly, it's surreal that I'll ever
> be civilly manipulated. I won't ever forgive someone who attempts to
> practice skullduggery with me. I am not disingenuous. I speak at what
> I fathom. I have no intention to be cozened by some bunch of
> intellectually decedent individuals. We knew that America's mission in
> the Middle East is to protect Israel. It therefore pays Egypt, Jordan
> and other Arab nations as they establish relationships with the
> Zionist entity and had forgotten the rightly deserved defying combat
> to emancipate our land. This is why I consider all Arab leaders
> including the one of my country to be absolute traitors and thence,
> are wholly destined to mass execution if I am to justly prosecute
> them. I am just demonstrating to you my perfect awareness of what's
> going on. In doing so, I knew what America is. Even if you all
> criticise Trump and what he does, you're not so innocent. There are
> continuous attempts led by American organisations and individuals to
> culturally manipulate as many young people of our countries and turn
> them to distorted copies. So, they are not proper Muslims nor they are
> recognised in your social arena. They have just gone astray. I am here
> to protect our younger generations from your vicious connivance to
> utterly demolish our heritage and identity. Young Muslims are your
> target and inshAllah, it won't ever be reached. I surely do not incite
> hate speech. I am just asking you to stay away from our religion.
> Don't you think it's filled with backwardness, savagery, violence
> etc, fine, just stay away and, don't talk unless you have a reference.
> If you don't present one, you'll be asked for it. So, it's better to
> keep your mouth shut and save your dignity eh? All fields are entitled
> to be viewed by their honourable specialists except Islam. It's to be
> talked about by anyone, even if he weighs zero in the scale of
> scholarship. Sorry, that's no longer acceptable. Either you speak
> with proper knowledge or just shut up. Is that clear?
>
>
>
>
> On 2/19/19, Roger Loran Bailey <dmarc-noreply@freelists.org> wrote:
>> Mostafa, I clearly remember you saying that you wanted to engage in a
>> civil discussion. Then why is it that whenever you are presented with an
>> argument you cannot refute you fall back on these ad homenum attacks?
>> Making insults do not make your position look very good. And, by the
>> way, I was awarded a degree in biology from West Virginia State College
>> in 1978. The institution is now known as West Virginia State University.
>> Also, I have never been a Christian. I havwe never turned away from
>> faith. I have always had enough sense to not base any belief I have ever
>> had on faith and it really kind of astounds me that you or anyone else
>> can be so gullible as to do so. Now, what is your motivation? Why do you
>> get on the Internet to harass people with your religion? Why do you want
>> to make yourself so unpopular? Why do you want to make yourself look so
>> foolish by claiming that you believe in supernatural beings including
>> flying horses? Why do you hold yourself up as some kind of superior
>> being because you are so gullible that you believe in silly mythology?
>> Why do you insist on alienating other people? Look inwardly, Mostafa.
>> There must be some reason that it is so important to you to show
>> yourself to be a person with such bad character.
>>
>> ---
>>
>> Carl Sagan
>> "Who is more humble? The scientist who looks at the universe with an open
>> mind and accepts whatever the universe has to teach us, or somebody who
>> says
>> everything in this book must be considered the literal truth and never
>> mind
>> the fallibility of all the human beings involved?"
>> ― Carl Sagan
>>
>> ___
>>
>> On 2/19/2019 5:02 AM, Mostafa Almahdy wrote:
>>> Roger, every now and then, you're proving to me that you're so
>>> pitiable. Apart from the fact that you are not a specialist, your
>>> claim of holding a degree in Biology seems to be counterfeit. You
>>> haven't referenced one reliable nor even unreliable source for these
>>> emptily statements. You've just talked nonsensically. Embryologists,
>>> who are competent in the field, affirm that the description of
>>> conceptus in the Koran which was revealed in the seventh century
>>> perfectly fits with today's medical discoveries. Furthermore, they say
>>> it was absolutely impossible for anyone at that time, no matter where
>>> they lived, to know the minimum of these precise specifications of the
>>> human embryo inside the womb, because microscopes, which are necessary
>>> instruments to observe such tiny objects were not yet invented.
>>> Roger, the fraudulently edified negates these plainly stunning facts.
>>> Further amazingly, he doesn't present the least of evidence for his so
>>> stupid argument. You are an abrupt empiricist. Drink warm milk and
>>> just calm down. I just want you to feel good with yourself. Why do you
>>> insist to be so idiot? Don't worry, I have got good news for you. The
>>> Koran talks about black holes. Allah swans at the beginning of chapter
>>> fifty-three with the star as it falls. This video matters to you.
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YON6T4v697U This video cites the
>>> mention of black holes in the Koran. How many time am I going to
>>> defeat you so flawlessly? This is enough for Roger the daft. Carl,
>>> comparing me to Trump the scoundrel is utterly intolerable. Your
>>> unpleasant experience with false instance of faith resembles your
>>> current crisis. There is grave antipathy toward faith in general
>>> within western culture and society. Here, the matter is different. I
>>> could go on with referencing scientific signs within the text of the
>>> Glorious Koran. The Koran was revealed at time when human
>>> understanding of the nature of the cosmos and the movement or the
>>> stillness of the heavenly bodies was extremely primitive and obscure.
>>> This is no longer the case, as our knowledge of the universe has
>>> considerably advanced and expounded at the present age. Some of the
>>> theories relating to the commencement of the universe have been
>>> verified as facts, whereas some others are still being explored. The
>>> concept of the expanding universe belongs to the former category and
>>> has been universally accepted by the scientific community as fact.
>>> United States astronomer, Edwin Hubble discovered that as the universe
>>> expands, the speed with which nebulae recede increases with their
>>> distance from the observer. This scientific breakthrough was initially
>>> divulged at almost the quarter of the past century. Nonetheless, the
>>> Koran has recorded this scientific fact fourteen hundred centuries
>>> earlier. Allah says this in the Koran: "And the heaven We constructed
>>> with strength, and indeed, We are its expander." This is the Noble
>>> Koran, chapter fifty-one, verse fourty-seven. Hmm, do you still assume
>>> science as your defender? Each and everyone of you started out as Jew
>>> or Christian. Thence, your journey of abandoning faith gradually
>>> began. Whether you are Atheist or agnostic, both are two different
>>> states of the same phenomenon. If you ask any of those, do you believe
>>> in a supernatural force that controls the universe? He'll just say I
>>> don't know. However, if you ask the same person, do you believe in
>>> God? He'll say no. So, even as they define themselves, they are
>>> demonstratively fallacious. It isn't my prob that you had been struck
>>> with appalling experience regarding religion. My faith urges me to
>>> reutilise my intellectual factor to the sufficient paramount. Hiding
>>> behind science and empty philosophy is no longer protective to any of
>>> you. You're so vulnerable to rational resignation. Now, Roger
>>> allegedly claimed that prophet Muhammad wrote the Koran. I want him to
>>> present me the least of decisive evidence for that. How did Muhammad
>>> who lived at the heart of Arabia in the seventh century learn about
>>> the expanding universe? If prophet Muhammad was educated, where is
>>> your attested witness? All reliable references that are pertained to
>>> study the biography of Muhammad the prophet tell us in an unbroken
>>> consensus, that the man never went to school nor he ever received
>>> scientific training. So, present to us the opposite if you have the
>>> proof of it. I demand scholarly rhetoric rather than haphazard talk.
>>> You may possibly regenerate your tediously sedentary lifestyle with
>>> engaging in such useful activities. This list desperately demands to
>>> be thoroughly disciplined. Well, I'm here to cope with this task. As
>>> my questions are so clear, I want even clearer answers. I may
>>> generously spare some of my precious time to read these nonsensical
>>> notions that are emerging in your intemperately imbecilic heads.
>>> Because my life is meaningful, I have to go now. I have life to live.
>>> I have things to do. I have real people to communicate with. Watch out
>>> for the next crack down on stupidish Atheism, agnosticism or whatever
>>> it might be, damn.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/17/19, Carl Jarvis <carjar82@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Mostafa,
>>>> For the record, I do not hate Islam, or Christianity, or Judaism, or
>>>> any of the many religions adopted by Man to attempt to explain this
>>>> small remote planet in this vast place we call the Universe.
>>>> Nor do I hate Santa Claus or the Tooth Fairy or Winnie the Poo. As I
>>>> grew up and left behind the children's stories, and came to understand
>>>> that little Elves did not make toys at the North Pole, I moved on to
>>>> interesting stories about Greek and Roman Gods. What a wild and crazy
>>>> bunch of super beings those characters were.
>>>> As a young man, I embraced Christianity and experienced it first
>>>> hand,eventually finding it to be just one more of the fables spread
>>>> by Men. And of course the major religions of the World are promoted
>>>> and controlled by Men. From the time we Humans were hiding in caves,
>>>> or swinging from trees, or roving the land in bands of hunters and
>>>> gatherers, the male has dominated through brute strength. But, as Bob
>>>> Dylan sings, "The times they are a changing", and women have attained
>>>> equal footing with men in their ability to survive and to protect
>>>> their families. Yet, we continue to mindlessly worship a God out of
>>>> the past. God at the top, then Men, then Women and Children. And
>>>> because Men tell us that this was God's Perfect Plan, those who buy
>>>> into any of these ancient beliefs are trapped into accepting it
>>>> without question.
>>>> Religions trap us into accepting the concept that there is a superior
>>>> intelligence. We carry this concept over into our own social
>>>> structures. We look for a strong, firm, all knowing leader. And what
>>>> we get are dictators, kings, and ruthless war lords. Men who
>>>> manipulate us for their own greedy desires.
>>>> But I understand that I'll never convince you that you are part of the
>>>> problem, just as surely as Donald Trump is part of the problem.
>>>> If we humans cannot move away from the Pyramid Structure that we
>>>> currently believe in, we are doomed. We are living in a Past World
>>>> Order that will destroy us.
>>>>
>>>> Carl Jarvis
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2/17/19, Mostafa Almahdy <mostafa.almahdy@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Well Roger, we could at least agree, that in many religions including
>>>>> the one I proudly belong to, people ignorantly associate superstitious
>>>>> notions with genuine religious concepts. The Noble Koran is wholly
>>>>> inerrable. It contains medicinal information that could have never
>>>>> been discovered in the seventh century. This is the timeframe during
>>>>> which the Koran was revealed. Let us have a look at the Koranic
>>>>> description of an embryological aspect. What are the consecutive
>>>>> phases of the human embryo development inside the womb? Here is a
>>>>> quoted English translations of a Koran book called the book of the
>>>>> believers. Allah says what could be rendered in English as follows:
>>>>> "And surely we created man from an extract of clay. Then We placed him
>>>>> as a sperm-drop in a firm lodging. Then We made the sperm-drop into a
>>>>> clinging clot, and We made the clot into a lump and We made the lump
>>>>> into bones and We clothed the bones with flesh. We then developed him
>>>>> into another creation. So blessed is Allah, the best of creators."
>>>>> This is a brief citation of the Koranic mention of human embryo in the
>>>>> womb. This is book of the believers numbered the twenty-third in a
>>>>> regular Koranic index, verses twelve to fourteen. Does the science
>>>>> today concur with what the Koran mentions? Embryologists said yes. I
>>>>> urge you to look up a prominent physician who specializes in
>>>>> Embryology, his name is Keith Moore. He confirms that what the Koran
>>>>> mentions about the human embryo in the womb is incisively accurate. He
>>>>> adds, that what the Koran says about the human embryo development
>>>>> could have not been empirically examined in the seventh century. Many
>>>>> key facts of what the Koran mentions haven't been empirically unveiled
>>>>> unless recently. Microscopes initially had been invented in the
>>>>> seventeenth century. But, they were relatively primitive. Therefore,
>>>>> significant information haven't been recorded in the field of
>>>>> Embryology. In earlier years of the twentieth century, microscopes
>>>>> incredibly ripened and hence, were sufficiently reliable. Haters of
>>>>> the Koran claim that we, the Muslims, bribed Prof Moore to falsely
>>>>> praise the Koran. Well, apart from the fact that they haven't
>>>>> presented the least of evidence to swan into this alleged impeachment,
>>>>> why would he need to accept money from relatively developing
>>>>> countries? He resides in Canada and held the chair of Medicine at
>>>>> Toronto university for many years. So, he is socially prestigious and
>>>>> financially prosperous. Fair-minded people do not say but what is
>>>>> true. The man has just learned that the Koran speaks something that is
>>>>> fully matching with today's scientific advancement. He also admitted,
>>>>> that what the Koran says here couldn't be rationally interpreted but a
>>>>> divine revelation. Everything I say here is authenticated and thence ,
>>>>> could be conveniently checked out. I respectfully urge Roger and
>>>>> others to tell me, if science could have not discovered what the Koran
>>>>> says about the human embryo development in the seventh century, how
>>>>> did Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him come up with this
>>>>> critical set of information? How did he know? We knew, that prophet
>>>>> Muhammad was completely illiterate during his entire life. People
>>>>> couldn't now elude the truth. Well, haters of Islam would still say,
>>>>> the Koran somewhat got hallucinated in Muhammad's head. I would like
>>>>> to ask them to present a convincing explanation of this heavily
>>>>> vacuous statement. So again, Roger, you couldn't hide behind the wall
>>>>> of science to deny faith. The latter doesn't contravene with modern
>>>>> scientific development. You have to quick counterfeitly exercising
>>>>> allegiance to science to justify your hate of religion. Just say,
>>>>> science may not necessarily contradict with faith related concepts but
>>>>> I just hate religions. If you say that, I will radically respect you,
>>>>> even though I'd sternly dissent with you. As someone who has a degree
>>>>> in Biology, I urge you to spare some of your time to study the
>>>>> proposition I presented here. I wish I am not encountered with emptily
>>>>> typical and unnecessary sophistry. I pray that Roger may not meet my
>>>>> expectations this time. The lecture of Dr Keith Moore on Embryology in
>>>>> the Koran is available on Youtube. If you need any help with this
>>>>> research process, please, don't hesitate to contact me.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/16/19, Mostafa <ebob824@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Racism is the prejudice that members of one race are intrinsically
>>>>>> superior to members of other races. While the United States is
>>>>>> allegedly said to be the transcendent nation of recognising human
>>>>>> rights, it incessantly aches the intolerable expenditure of racial
>>>>>> disparity. Malcolm X was a civil right leader. At the beginning of
>>>>>> his
>>>>>> life, he joined Nation of Islam. It was a racialist movement that
>>>>>> professed and advocated for black people emancipation in the United
>>>>>> States. After he returned from Haj, he disposed the membership of
>>>>>> Nation of Islam. This movement's emergence was a natural consequence.
>>>>>> As black people were relentlessly plagued, a racialist movement
>>>>>> egressed. Because of his darker complexion, he is often referred to
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> Malcolm little. Americans are so proud of Abraham Lincoln's decision
>>>>>> to wholly emancipate slaves. While this is ostensibly exulting, it is
>>>>>> inwardly problematic. He delt with the symptom and disposed the
>>>>>> disease. Slavery is the symptom and racial disparity is the disease.
>>>>>> This crucial fact hasn't yet been fathomed in modern America. During
>>>>>> the sixties of the last century, when Eisenhower was president, there
>>>>>> was drinking fountains for only white people. Black people couldn't
>>>>>> have access to them. In spite of unproved claims of racial equality,
>>>>>> African Americans encounter discrimination on virtually a daily
>>>>>> basis.
>>>>>> This negative phenomenon is conspicuously notorious in Trump's era.
>>>>>> Donald Trump has exceedingly been uttering direly racialist remarks.
>>>>>> Recently, he fended for a racist ad about migrants caravan. He
>>>>>> uttered
>>>>>> xenophobically pertained inputs during many of his ardent rallies.
>>>>>> Donald Trump delivered crude remarks when he called Haiti and African
>>>>>> nations shithole countries during White House bipartisan meeting on
>>>>>> immigration January last year. Consequently, a mass condemnation has
>>>>>> intemperately been ensued. Nevertheless, neither Trump nor his staff
>>>>>> apologised. They just denied the case. Donald Trump is formally
>>>>>> indicted of viciously misleading his own people. I have been told not
>>>>>> to criticise the United States by a senior pastor of Jefferson
>>>>>> Baptist
>>>>>> Church. With all respect to this, I am not to be told what to do or
>>>>>> say. I am free to openly speak my mind the manner I deem appropriate.
>>>>>> You are free to consider Donald Trump a fulfillment of biblical
>>>>>> prophecy. Nonetheless, I simultaneously reserve the right to consider
>>>>>> this tremendously preposterous. Isn't that the implicated definition
>>>>>> of free expression in American culture? Before you respond to this
>>>>>> thread, you may first consider the subsequent major factor. I'm not
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> be civilly defeated or manipulated. I say this each time I send a
>>>>>> mass
>>>>>> post to confirm my firm allegiance to my heritage and identity. If
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> respect my upbringing, we certainly would be tight friends. Even if
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> radically dissent on critical issues, we could still be decent to
>>>>>> each
>>>>>> other. That's my motto: don't hate, educate. Our fate is to
>>>>>> integrate.
>>>>>> Nevertheless, there are some people who wish to incessantly denigrate
>>>>>> our heritage and identity. They arrogantly insist to americanise our
>>>>>> character. If we don't defer to them, we are instantly derogated and
>>>>>> demonised. I emphatically despise this superior disposal. The United
>>>>>> States is on the decline in Trump's chaotic age. The currently
>>>>>> erupted
>>>>>> conflict over border wall funding is indispensably of America's core
>>>>>> racial crisis. This social defect has been longly neglected. It has
>>>>>> now been plainly brought to the surface. Thence, a national emergency
>>>>>> has been officially declared over border wall funding. Two days prior
>>>>>> to that, Trump arranged a massive rally in El Paso Texas. Therein, he
>>>>>> spoke to his wittingly indoctrinated protagonists. One of his remarks
>>>>>> that was incomparably ludicrous when he said in inquisitive fashion,
>>>>>> "Is there anyplace that's more fund to be than a Trump rally?".
>>>>>> That's
>>>>>> absolutely absurd. I tell southern evangelists who're mainly
>>>>>> receiving
>>>>>> this post, you have to wake up and smell the coffee. Your hellion
>>>>>> chief's alleged patriotism is at stake. Your whitened temperament
>>>>>> has
>>>>>> paved the damnable path for broadly racialist emersion across the
>>>>>> nation. The conservative camp has been conspicuously notorious of
>>>>>> barefacedly colluding with pro Zionist entities. At the buckle of the
>>>>>> Bible Belt, typical evangelists denounce Islam out of grave malice.
>>>>>> But why? Well, first off, Islam resembles a major threat to Church
>>>>>> eminence and precedence. Whenever you ask pastors about the explicit
>>>>>> statement where Jesus says I'm God worship me or where he says, I'm
>>>>>> going to die for your sins, they naturally start to palter. Islam has
>>>>>> the ever plainly sentiment of pure monotheism and sincere submission
>>>>>> to the Creator glory be to Him. Haters of Islam primarily rely on
>>>>>> misconceptions and preconceived notions to relentlessly defame Islam.
>>>>>> One of the easiest things for them to say, Islam isn't a religion of
>>>>>> peace. Well, neither it's a religion of war. War and peace are two
>>>>>> separate situations that Islam has crystal clear jural tenets for. I
>>>>>> have been repeatedly demanding pastors to courageously interact with
>>>>>> me. Well unfortunately, they never return my proposal for one obvious
>>>>>> reason. They intensely reject the truth. So, to give you a brief
>>>>>> introduction about Islam, it is an entire way of life. It basically
>>>>>> consists of rights to the Creator and rights to the creation. Rights
>>>>>> to Creator, you have got to worship Him alone, without asssociating
>>>>>> partners with Him. That includes establishing the prayer, paying
>>>>>> Zakat
>>>>>> which is almsgiving if your wealth meets certain requirements,
>>>>>> fasting the month of Ramadan as soon as you become adult and to make
>>>>>> pilgrimage to the Holy site of Mecca where the Caaba is enshrined at
>>>>>> least once in your life, again, if certain social and financial
>>>>>> prerequisites were met. Note, Muslims do not idolise the Caaba. They
>>>>>> rather honour it as the sanctuary of the divine on earth. It is a
>>>>>> symble of monotheistic faith. Therefore, it has been determined by
>>>>>> Allah glory be to Him to face it while praying, no matter where you
>>>>>> were in the globe. Islam considers Jesus as the last mighty apostle
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> God. He is the last mighty messenger in advance of the seal one,
>>>>>> prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon both of them. Islam's
>>>>>> adherents are irrevocably enjoined to be humble, respectful.
>>>>>> Concurrently, they are obliged to seek and speak the word of truth
>>>>>> despite how tough the consequences might turn out to be. Islam
>>>>>> prohibits harming human beings. Islam calls us to correct our
>>>>>> behaviour constantly. No one is perfect nevertheless, no one is born
>>>>>> sinful either. Human nature is developed to chase temporally
>>>>>> desirable
>>>>>> acts. Worship is designated to gradually elevate the spirit until it
>>>>>> reaches the celestial realm. Haters of Islam pervert religious
>>>>>> concepts and traditions to aid promoting their discouraging
>>>>>> propaganda. They never apply something known as fact-finding or
>>>>>> investigatory process. They never dare hosting someone who is a
>>>>>> proper
>>>>>> representer of or genuinely edified about Islam. Instead, they
>>>>>> prejudiciously bring people who're mentally deranged of irrationally
>>>>>> detesting Islam, paranoiacs. They couldn't feature at least
>>>>>> fair-minded individuals. Their allegedly expert on Islam has to be
>>>>>> radically fanatic, opprobrious, full of hate and anger toward Islam.
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> therefore am used to exposing many of those. Some of them are Arabs
>>>>>> and their vast majority is comprised of westerns. It is
>>>>>> not practically potential for me to cover everything about Islam
>>>>>> here.
>>>>>> Therefore, I urge those who are interested to go farther to directly
>>>>>> interact with me. You could reply to this message to do so.
>>>>>> Alternatively, we may always schedule a Skype arrangement, if your
>>>>>> enquiry demands a scholarly thorough response. Thank you so much
>>>>>> for patiently reading. This is me, Cleric Mustafa, I'm based in Cairo
>>>>>> Egypt.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> (Seeking knowledge is compulsory from cratle to grave because it is a
>>>>> shoreless ocean.)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> (Seeking knowledge is compulsory from cratle to grave because it is a
> shoreless ocean.)
>

Tuesday, February 19, 2019

Re: [blind-democracy] FW: ALERT: U.S. Military confrontation on Venezuelan-Colombian border a danger this week - All Out!

This morning I heard bits from a speech Donald Trump delivered last
night. In it he declared war on socialism, calling it Evil and
Corrupt and threatening the World Order. This alone ought to alarm
all Working Class Americans. So much of our current life style is
due, not to corporate capitalism, but to the social services which we
pay our taxes for. Well, most of us pay. Amazon, according to
today's news, has not paid a single cent of income tax for the past
two years. But here's the stunner, Amazon has received rebates. How
does that work? I'm getting in That Line!
Well, I offer to anyone who wants to use it, my latest bumper
sticker/T shirt slogan.
"I'd rather be Socialist than Donald Trump".

Carl Jarvis

On 2/18/19, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@optonline.net> wrote:
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> The People of the World Say: No War on Venezuela! No War for Oil! Actions
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> We need you to join us on February 23 at one of the 70+ actions planned
> across the globe against U.S. military intervention in Venezuela.
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> The U.S. has deployed military planes carrying "aid" to Cucuta, Colombia on
> the Venezuelan border. The Cuban government warned that the U.S. military is
> taking positions in strategic locations throughout Latin America and the
> Caribbean. The aid is likely a ploy to cover for smuggling arms into
> Venezuela, and a tool to provoke confrontation to justify greater U.S.
> intervention - a strategy that mirrors previous U.S. military interventions
> in Latin America and across the world.
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> Opposition leader and U.S. puppet Juan Guaidó has called for a so-called
> "humanitarian corridor" to open across the border on February 23, one month
> after his failed coup attempt.
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> His announcement and the U.S. military build-up are warnings of imminent
> military action against Venezuela.
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> U.S. President Donald Trump announced a declaration of a 'national
> emergency' to move billions in funds and even more U.S. troops to the
> U.S./Mexico border to build the racist border wall. U.S. Marines have also
> been deployed to Haiti to repress a growing uprising by the Haitian people.
> We say: No U.S. troops on the border with Mexico, in Haiti, or Venezuela!
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> "Venezuela Live Aid" Feb 22 - a cover for war: English billionaire Richard
> Branson is organizing for a cynical propaganda spectacle on the
> Colombia-Venezuela border this Friday in the form of a concert.
> <https://solidaritycenter.ourpowerbase.net/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=285&qid=130471>
> Demonstrations around the world February 23 must counter this war propaganda
> blitz against Venezuela.
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> No war for oil!
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> U.S. National Security Advisor John Bolton has admitted what U.S.
> intervention is really about: "It will make a big difference to the United
> States economically if we could have American oil companies invest in and
> produce the oil capabilities in Venezuela." Just like Iraq, this is U.S.
> intervention for oil. Venezuela's oil belongs to the Venezuelan people, not
> U.S. oil companies!
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> day of action on February 23 to say: No War on Venezuela! Every mobilization
> has many costs in web sites, social media, signs, banners, printing and
> producing materials, and more. Help us keep building the struggle against US
> War On Venezuela!
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> Actions were announced this week in a growing number of U.S. and Canadian
> cities, as well as Ecuador, Scotland, Australia, Azerbaijan, Mexico, Iran,
> India, Italy and many other countries.
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> Wear red in support of Venezuela on #23Feb! In solidarity with the
> Bolivarian Revolution in Venezuela, whose supporters often wear red to their
> mobilizations, we ask that supporters of a truly sovereign Venezuela wear
> red on February 23rd. Like the Gilets Jaunes in Paris, this will strengthen
> our message of solidarity.
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> We've added
> <https://solidaritycenter.ourpowerbase.net/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=288&qid=130471>
> many new resources to assist preparations for demonstrations on February 23,
> including large posters with room to add your local event info, a leaflet on
> the impact of sanctions on Venezuela produced by the Latin American and
> Caribbean Solidarity Network, and more. We will be adding placards and other
> materials throughout the week -
> <https://solidaritycenter.ourpowerbase.net/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=288&qid=130471>
> check the Resource page on the site for regular updates.
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> Every action held during the weekend of February 23 - no matter the size or
> scale - will have an impact. Consider a smaller-scale action to raise
> awareness:
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> * Link up with a few like-minded allies to print our fact sheets on
> Venezuela and pass them out in public places, such as a mall or public
> transit station
> * Consider a banner-drop, a picket, or holding signs and distributing fact
> sheets near a busy intersection or overpass. Get slogans or pre-made
> placards from our resource page
> * Wear red with your friends and take a photo while holding pro-Venezuela
> messages and tag them on social media as #HandsOffVenezuela or #23feb
> * Picket your local gas station with messages that convey: NOT ANOTHER WAR
> FOR OIL!
> * Screen Venezuela: La lucha sigue, The Revolution Will Not Be Televised, or
> other films that tell the truth about the Bolivarian Revolution at a public
> space or in your home. Invite like-minded activists to link up and begin to
> plan the next day of action in support of Venezuela.
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> You can also use our
> <https://solidaritycenter.ourpowerbase.net/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=289&qid=130471>
> Facebook page to link up with like-minded allies, post a message on Twitter
> and
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> tag our account, or
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> send an email to our international organizers. We will be glad to assist you
> in planning an action in your area and connecting with others in your area.
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> The people of the world say No War!
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> They say No war for Oil!
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> They say No War on Venezuela!
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> International Actions On the Weekend of February 23
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> *Actions listed alphabetically by city*
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> Albany, NY
> Hands off Venezuela!
> Saturday, February 23 | Noon
> Wolf Rd and Central Ave
> Contact: 518-281-1968
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> Ann Arbor, MI
> Hands off Venezuela!
> Saturday, February 23 | 12 noon
> Rally at the Federal Building | Liberty Street and Fifth Avenue
> Organized by: Ann Arbor Coalition Against the War | Contact: 734-662-6036
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> Atlanta, GA
> Monday, Feb. 18, 6-8pm: Special WRFG 89.3FM program :US Hands off Venezuela!
> Local and national anti-war and social justice activists provide facts and
> analysis exposing the 20 year campaign by the US to overturn the Bolivarian
> Revolution with its radical program to end poverty and empower the mass of
> people. Also streamed at wrfg.org and on mobile apps.
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> Wednesday, Feb. 20, 4-5pm: Join Georgia Peace and Justice Coalition's weekly
> vigil at Moreland and Ponce de Leon to oppose all US actions to bring about
> a coup against the elected president, Nicolas Maduro in Venezuela..
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> Friday, Feb. 22, noon-1pm: Colony Square Peace vigil at Peachtree and 15th
> St. No War on Venezuela!
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> Saturday, Feb. 23, 1-3:30pm: Stand with Venezuela's Bolivarian Revolution!
> Town Hall Meeting, The Arts Exchange, 2148 Newnan St., East Point 30344.
> Videos, speakers, discussion. For more information, atlantawwp@gmail.com or
> atlantaiac@aol.com
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> Saturday, Feb. 23, 5-7pm: Tune in to WRFG's "Beyond Borders program for
> reports of No War on Venezuela actions around the US and the world. 89.3FM,
> wrfg.org
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> Austin, TX
> <https://solidaritycenter.ourpowerbase.net/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=292&qid=130471>
> Hands off Venezuela Rally
> Saturday, February 23 | 12pm
> Texas State Capitol
> Organized by: Austin Anti-War Coalition
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> Baku, Azerbaijan
> No war on Venezuela!
> Saturday, February 23 | Details TBA
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> Baltimore, MD
> <https://solidaritycenter.ourpowerbase.net/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=293&qid=130471>
> No Coup, No Sanctions, No War on Venezuela
> Saturday, February 23 | 4pm
> 33rd and N Charles Street
> Sponsored by a host of groups and open to any and all who support our
> demands of no coup, no sanctions, no war on Venezuela. Initial sponsors
> include: Baltimore Peace Action; Baltimore Non-Violence Center; Baltimore
> Solidarity with Venezuela; Communist Party of Maryland; Peoples Power
> Assembly; Struggle for Socialism/La Lucha por Socialismo; Ujima Peoples
> Progress Party; Youth Against War & Racism (partial list)
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> Bengaluru, India
> No War on Venezuela!
> Saturday, February 23 | Details TBA
> Organized by: Socialist Unity Center of India (C)
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> Boston, MA
> <https://solidaritycenter.ourpowerbase.net/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=294&qid=130471>
> No War on Venezuela!
> Saturday, February 23 | 1pm
> Gather at MBTA Park Street Stop
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> Brainerd, MN
> No War on Venezuela!
> Saturday, February 16 | 1pm
> Sixth and Washington Streets (near Sawmill Inn)
> Organized by:
> <https://solidaritycenter.ourpowerbase.net/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=295&qid=130471>
> Brainerd Area Coalition for Peace
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> Brisbane, Australia
> Rally in support of the Bolivarian Revolution
> Saturday, February 23 | 1pm
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> Brunswick, ME
> <https://solidaritycenter.ourpowerbase.net/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=296&qid=130471>
> Solidarity Protest with Venezuela!
> Saturday, February 23 | 11am
> Town Green by the Gazebo
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> Buffalo, NY
> <https://solidaritycenter.ourpowerbase.net/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=297&qid=130471>
> No U.S. War on Venezuela - No Coup, No Intervention, No Sanctions
> Saturday, February 23 | 1pm
> Federal Building, Elmwood Ave and West Huron
> Sponsored by Buffalo Anti-War | buffaloantiwar@gmail.com
>
> Charlotte, NC
> <https://solidaritycenter.ourpowerbase.net/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=298&qid=130471>
> US & NATO: Hands Off Venezuela!
> Saturday, February 23 | 2pm
> Eastway Square | 3211 Eastway Dr.
>
> Chennai, India
> No War on Venezuela!
> Saturday, February 23 | Details TBA
> Organized by: Socialist Unity Center of India (C)
>
> Chicago, IL
> <https://solidaritycenter.ourpowerbase.net/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=299&qid=130471>
> No War No Coup Against Venezuela
> Friday, February 22 | 4:30pm
> ABC News Studio | 190 N State
> Sponsored by Evanston Neighbors for Peace, Chicago ALBA Solidarity, Chicago
> Area Peace Action, Chicago Committee Against War and Racism, Vets for Peace-
> Chicago, others
>
> Cleveland, OH
> <https://solidaritycenter.ourpowerbase.net/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=300&qid=130471>
> Cleveland says: No War On Venezuela!
> Saturday, February 23 | 12:30pm
> 2168 W 25th Street
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> Collingswood, NJ
> <https://solidaritycenter.ourpowerbase.net/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=301&qid=130471>
> No Sanctions! No Coup! No War! Hands off Venezuela!
> Saturday, February 23 | 11am
> RTE-130 @ Cooper River Park
> Organized by: Green Party of Camden County NJ
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> Corvallis, OR
> No War On Venezuela!
> Saturday, February 23 | 5pm
> Benton County Courthouse, 120 NW 4th Street
> Organized by: Corvallis Latin America Solidarity Committee and the
> Corvallis chapter of the Committees of Correspondence for Democracy and
> Socialism
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> Delhi, India
> No War on Venezuela!
> Saturday, February 23 | Details TBA
> Organized by: Socialist Unity Center of India (C)
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> Dhaka, Bangladesh
> USA Hands off Venezuela
> Saturday, February 23 | Details TBA
> Organized by: Socialist Party of Bangladesh
>
> Dublin, Ireland
> <https://solidaritycenter.ourpowerbase.net/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=302&qid=130471>
> Venezuela Global Day of Action
> Saturday, February 23 | 1pm
> U.S. Embassy | Ballsbridge, Dublin 4
> Organized by: Venezuela Ireland Network, Peace and Neutrality Alliance
> (PANA)
>
> East Setauket, Long Island, NY
> Hands off Venezuela!
> Saturday, February 23 | 11am
> Rt. 25A and Bennetts Rd., East Setauket, Long Island, NY 11733
> Solidarity action to take place during the regular anti-war Saturday vigil
> organized by the North Country Peace Group at the corner of Rt. 25A &
> Bennetts Road, E. Setauket, NY (south side of street). Vigil will take place
> 11 a.m. – 12:15 p.m. Bring signs. Please avoid parking in CVS lot and use
> other nearby parking on Rt. 25A and across the street on North Country
> Road.
> Organized by: North Country Peace Group, contact: ncpeaceg@gmail.com
>
> Fayetteville, NC
> <https://solidaritycenter.ourpowerbase.net/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=303&qid=130471>
> No War on Venezuela! March on Ft. Bragg
> Saturday, February 23 | 2 - 5pm
> Join anti-imperialist and progressive forces at Fort Bragg, the largest
> military base in the world, to demand Hands off Venezuela!
>
> Geneva, Switzerland
> Demonstration for Peace and Sovereignty
> Saturday, February 23 | 3pm
> Organized by: ALBA (Latin America Working Group Basel)
>
> Glasgow, Scotland
> <https://solidaritycenter.ourpowerbase.net/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=304&qid=130471>
> No War on Venezuela! International Day of Action, Glasgow
> Saturday, February 23 | 1pm
> Glasgow Royal Concert Hall | Sauciehall Street Glasgow G2 3NY Scotland
> Hosted by Revolutionary Communist Group – Glasgow, Fight Racism!Fight
> Imperialism!, Hands off Venezuela, and Glasgow Marxists
>
> Halifax, Canada
> <https://solidaritycenter.ourpowerbase.net/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=305&qid=130471>
> No war on Venezuela!
> Saturday, February 23 | 1pm
> Peace and Freedom Park (formerly Cornwallis Park) | Hollis St
> Organized by Alliance for Venezuela Halifax and is co-sponsored by the
> Halifax Peace Council
>
> Hanover, NH
> No war on Venezuela!
> Saturday, February 23 | 2pm
> Gather at busy corner by Dartmouth College Green
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> Hartford, CT
> No War on Venezuela!
> Saturday, February 23 | 12pm
> Federal Building | Main St
> Organized by: CT Peace and Solidarity Coalition
>
> Houston, TX
> <https://solidaritycenter.ourpowerbase.net/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=306&qid=130471>
> No War on Venezuela!
> Saturday, February 23 | 2pm
> Mecom Fountain Traffic Circle (Main St and Montrose)
>
> Hyderabad, India
> No War on Venezuela!
> Saturday, February 23 | Details TBA
> Organized by: Socialist Unity Center of India (C)
>
> Indianapolis, IN
> No war on Venezuela!
> Saturday, February 23 | 4pm
> Indiana State Capitol | 200 W Washington St
>
> Jersey City, NJ
> No war on Venezuela!
> Saturday, February 23 | 11am – 2pm
> Manhattan Ave. & Central Ave. (across from the Stop&Shop supermarket)
> Organizations currently sponsoring: NJ Action 21, Jersey City Peace
> Movement, Veterans For Peace, NJ Peace Council
>
> Kolkata, India
> US Imperialism Hands Off Venezuela
> Saturday, February 23 | Details TBA
> Organized by: Socialist Unity Center of India (C)
>
> Lawrence, KS
> No War on Venezuela!
> Saturday, February 23 | 12pm
> 9th and Massachusetts | Lawrence, KS
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> Liverpool, England
> <https://solidaritycenter.ourpowerbase.net/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=307&qid=130471>
> Hands off Venezuela!
> Saturday, February 23 | 12pm
> Derby Square | Liverpool L2, 9 England
> Co-hosted by Revolutionary Communist Group – Liverpool Fight Racism! Fight
> Imperialism!, Hands Off Venezuela, and Liverpool Marxist Society
>
> London, England
> <https://solidaritycenter.ourpowerbase.net/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=308&qid=130471>
> No war on Venezuela – Stop Trump's Gold and Oil Grab!
> Saturday, February 23 | 1pm
> Bank of England
> Organized by: Venezuela Solidarity Campaign
>
> London, ON, Canada
> <https://solidaritycenter.ourpowerbase.net/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=309&qid=130471>
> No war on Venezuela!
> Saturday, February 23 | 12pm
> NW corner of Victoria Park
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> Madison, WI
> <https://solidaritycenter.ourpowerbase.net/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=310&qid=130471>
> U.S. Hands off Venezuela Rally
> Saturday, February 23 | 12pm
> Wisconsin State Capitol Building | State Street side
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> Massapequa Park, NY
> <https://solidaritycenter.ourpowerbase.net/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=311&qid=130471>
> U.S. Hands off Venezuela! Reject US militarism and war!
> Saturday, February 23 | 12pm
> 1003 Park Blvd | Massapequa Park
>
> Miami, FL
> <https://solidaritycenter.ourpowerbase.net/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=312&qid=130471>
> Stop Trump's War on Venezuela! International Day of Action
> Saturday, February 23 | 2pm
> U.S. Southern Command | 9301 NW 33rd St, Doral, FL 33172
>
> Join the South Florida anti-war community as we demand: No U.S War on
> Venezuela! Stop the Coup! End the Sanctions! Self Determination for the
> Venezuelan people!
>
> In South Florida, we have a particular obligation to stand against US
> interference in Venezuela. Miami is home to US Southern Command in Doral,
> FL– the base for all US military operations in Latin America, particularly
> Venezuela at the moment. US SOUTHCOM is a nefarious entity whose
> track-record includes toppling governments throughout Central and South
> America and the Caribbean, propping up right-wing governments and dictators,
> arming death-squads throughout the hemisphere, and committing troops to
> countries within the region.
>
> For more info, contact
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> POWIR
>
> Minneapolis, MN
> Saturday, February 23 | 1pm
>
> U.S. Hands off Venezuela
> No coup
> No sanctions
> No new U.S. war!
>
> 1:00 pm – Gather at Hennepin & Lagoon Aves, Minneapolis
> Be part of a visible anti-war presence, say no to U.S.
> intervention
>
> 1:30 pm – Anti-war visibility at nearby busy corners
>
> 2:00 pm Closing rally
>
> Initiated by Minnesota Peace Action Coalition
> Contact:
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> antiwarnews@gmail.com | 612 827-5364 or 612 275-2720 or find on
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> Facebook
>
> Monterey, CA
> Saturday, February 23 | 4 – 6pm
> Window on the Bay | Across from El Estero Park
> Raise Awareness on the Situation in Venezuela and Join Veterans For Peace
> Chapter 46 on February 23
> Contact: Justin Loza, VFP 46 President | justin.loza@vfp46.com
>
> Montreal, Canada
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> Non à l'intervention Trump – Trudeau
> Saturday, February 23 | 2pm
> Carré Philipps | Montréal, Québec
>
> Moscow, Russia
> No War on Venezuela!
> Details TBA
>
> New Brunswick, NJ
> <https://solidaritycenter.ourpowerbase.net/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=317&qid=130471>
> Hands off Venezuela!
> Tuesday, February 26 | 11:30a
> Rutgers University | Brower Commons
>
> New Haven, CT
> No War on Venezuela!
> Saturday, February 23 | Details TBA
> On the Green
> Organized by: CT Peace and Solidarity Coalition
>
> New Orleans, LA
> <https://solidaritycenter.ourpowerbase.net/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=318&qid=130471>
> Hands off Venezuela Forum
> Sunday, February 24 | 5pm
> Cafe Istanbul NOLA | 2372 St. Claude Ave
> Organized by: New Orleans Workers Group
>
> New York, NY
> <https://solidaritycenter.ourpowerbase.net/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=319&qid=130471>
> March on Wall Street to Defend Venezuela!
> Saturday, February 23 | 1pm
> Gather at 40 Wall Street
>
> ——-
>
> Hands off Venezuela Special on WBAI
> Sunday, February 24 | 12 – 4pm
> Tune in: 99.5FM in NY, streaming at WBAI.org
>
> Newark, NJ
> No War on Venezuela!
> Details TBA
> For more info: 973-801-0001
>
> Newcastle Upon Tyne, England
> <https://solidaritycenter.ourpowerbase.net/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=320&qid=130471>
> Hands off Venezuela! No Sanctions! No Coup!
> Saturday, February 23 | 12pm
> Grey's Monument | Newcastle upon Tyne, England
> Hosted by Revolutionary Communist Group – Fight Racism! Fight Imperialism!
> North East, Hands Off Venezuela, and Newcastle Marxist Society
>
> Oakland, CA
> <https://solidaritycenter.ourpowerbase.net/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=321&qid=130471>
> No war on Venezuela!
> Saturday, February 23 | 12pm
> Oscar Grant Plaza | 14th and Broadway
> Sponsored by: Spring Action Antiwar Coalition (Bay Area)
>
> Ottawa, Canada
> <https://solidaritycenter.ourpowerbase.net/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=322&qid=130471>
> No war on Venezuela!
> Saturday, February 23 | 12pm
> Gather at the Prime Minister's office for a march to the U.S. Embassy!
>
> Philadelphia, PA
> <https://solidaritycenter.ourpowerbase.net/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=323&qid=130471>
> No war on Venezuela!
> Saturday, February 23 | 11am
> Gather at City Hall, 15th St Side
>
> Pittsburgh, PA
> No War on Venezuela!
> Saturday, February 23 | 1pm
> Schenley Plaza | 4100 Forbes Ave
> Organized by Pittsburgh Anti-Imperialist League (PAIL)
>
> Portland, OR
> Saturday, February 23 | 3pm
> Sunnyside Community Center | 3520 SE Yamhill St
>
> Quito, Ecuador
> No war on Venezuela!
> Saturday, February 23 | Details TBA
>
> Racine, WI
> No war on Venezuela – Presentation on the history of US intervention in
> Latin America, and on Venezuela from 1998 to the present
> Saturday, February 23 | 11am
> John Bryant Community Center | 601 Racine St
>
> No War on Venezuela!
> Saturday, March 16 | 11am – 1pm
> Monument Square
>
> Both events organized by: Central America Solidarity Coalition of Racine &
> Kenosha, of the
> <https://solidaritycenter.ourpowerbase.net/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=324&qid=130471>
> Racine Coalition for Peace and Justice
>
> Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
> No War on Venezuela!
> Saturday, February 23 | 2pm
> City Hall, Peace Fountain
>
> Richmond, VA
> <https://solidaritycenter.ourpowerbase.net/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=325&qid=130471>
> No to War, NATO & Racism! U.S. Hands off Venezuela!
> Friday, February 22 | 6:30pm
> First Unitarian Universalist Church – 1000 Blanton Ave, Richmond, VA 23221
>
> Rome, Italy
> Saturday, February 23 | Details TBA
> Organized by: Fronte Popolare, La Città Futura, Collettivo Militant, Casa
> del Popolo Giuseppe Tanas (Roma), Patria Socialista, PCI, Italia-Venezuela
> Bolivariana
>
> San Diego, CA
> <https://solidaritycenter.ourpowerbase.net/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=326&qid=130471>
> Resist US War on Venezuela
> Saturday, February 23 | 1pm
> San Diego County Administration | 1600 Pacific Highway
> Organized by: San Diego IWW
>
> Santa Clara, CA
> Hands Off Venezuela! No Coup In Venezuela! Venezuelan Oil For Venezuela! US
> Out of Venezuela! Maduro Democratically Elected!
> Saturday, February 23 | 12pm
> Gather at The Peace Corner | Stevens Creek Blvd and Winchester Blvd
>
> Santa Monica, CA
> <https://solidaritycenter.ourpowerbase.net/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=327&qid=130471>
> Hands off Venezuela
> Saturday, February 23 | 3pm
> Santa Monica Pier | Meet at Colorado and Ocean Ave
>
> Sydney, Australia
> <https://solidaritycenter.ourpowerbase.net/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=328&qid=130471>
> No US Coup/War in Venezuela! Lift the Sanctions Now!
> Saturday, February 23 | 1pm
> U.S. Consulate General Sydney | Martin Place (outside MLC Bldg), Sydney
> Centre
> Organized by: Australia Venezuela Solidarity Network
>
> Syracuse, NY
> <https://solidaritycenter.ourpowerbase.net/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=329&qid=130471>
> No War on Venezuela
> Saturday, February 23 | 12pm
> Perseverance Park | Salina St.
>
> Tijuana, Mexico
> February 22 | Workshop by U.S. Deported Veterans on Migrant Impact and U.S.
> Wars. No War On Venezuela with Gerry Condon – Pres VFP and Hector Lopez –
> Unified Deported Veterans
>
> Saturday, February 23 | Solidarity of Peoples – Border March
> Pedestrian West Border Crossing – Also raising No War on Venezuela
>
> Organized by: Veterans For Peace Chapter 182, Unified Deported Veterans
> For more info: DVSH.ROB@gmail.com | unifeddeportedveterans@gmail. com
>
> Toronto, Canada
> <https://solidaritycenter.ourpowerbase.net/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=330&qid=130471>
> Hands off Venezuela: No Sanctions, No Lima Group, No Coup
> Wednesday, February 20 | 3pm
> Office of MP Chrystia Freeland | 344 Bloor St W
>
> 1-hour rally outside the office of the Canadian Minister of Foreign Affairs
> Chrystia Freeland to object to her/the federal government's stance on and
> sanctions against Venezuela, and participation in the Lima Group. Canada
> should join the UN, the Vatican, Uruguay and Mexico in calling for a
> peaceful, diplomatic solution with all parties to end the political crisis
> and lift the sanctions on Venezuela
>
> ——
>
> <https://solidaritycenter.ourpowerbase.net/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=331&qid=130471>
> No to U.S.-Led Intervention: A Community Forum
> Wednesday, February 20 | 6:30pm
> University of Toronto | 252 Bloor Street West
> An Emergency Community Forum: Join us for a public forum with
> representatives from the Caribbean, African and Latin American community
> organizations, discussing the deeply inconsistent, hypocritical and
> dangerous ways the Canadian government has historically approached matters
> of humanitarian intervention – and why this matters today when it comes to
> Venezuela.
>
> Sponsoring groups: Global Afrikan Congress, Group for Research & Initiative
> for the Liberation of Africa (GRILA), Common Frontiers, Caribbean Solidarity
> Network, Students Against Israeli Apartheid, Latin American and Caribbean
> Solidarity Network – LACSN, Hugo Chavez Front, Justice 4 Migrant Workers,
> Jamhoor, Venezuela Solidarity Committee
>
> ——-
>
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> No War On Venezuela! Hands Off Venezuela
> Saturday, February 23 | 11am
> Rally Outside CBC Office – 250 Front Street West | March to Bay Street/
> Financial District
>
> The participants and endorsing organizations of the February 23rd "No War On
> Venezuela" rally in Toronto demand that the federal government immediately
> recognize the democratically elected president of Venezuela, lift the
> sanctions, and stop laying the groundwork for military intervention. CBC:
> stop the lies! Bay street: not your gold, not your oil, hands off Venezuelan
> soil!
>
> Tucson, AZ
> Saturday, February 23 | 10a - 2p
> Armory Park, during the Peace Fair
> Organized by:Tucson Anti-War Committee
>
> Turin, Italy
> Saturday, February 23 | Details TBA
> Organized by: Fronte Popolare, Rete dei Comunisti and Potere al Popolo
>
> Valleta, Malta
> Saturday, February 23 | 4pm
> 28 Strait Street
> Organized by: ALBA MNAC and PKM
>
> Vancouver, BC, Canada
> <https://solidaritycenter.ourpowerbase.net/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=333&qid=130471>
> No Sanctions! Hands off Venezuela! No military intervention!
> Saturday, February 23 | 12pm
> Gather in front of the CBC at Georgia and Hamilton Streets
> Rally organized by the Venezuela Peace and Solidarity Committee of
> Vancouver
>
> ——-
>
> Saturday February 23 | 2pm
>
> <https://solidaritycenter.ourpowerbase.net/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=334&qid=130471>
> No War on Venezuela! – International Day of Action
> <https://solidaritycenter.ourpowerbase.net/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=334&qid=130471>
> Vancouver, Canada Rally & Petition Campaign
>
> No Coup in Venezuela!
> U.S./Canada Hands Off Venezuela!
> No more U.S./Canada Sanctions & Threats!
>
> Vancouver Art Gallery
> Robson St. at Howe St.
> Downtown Vancouver
>
> Organized by: Fire This Time Movement for Social Justice (FTT) – Venezuela
> Solidarity Campaign
>
> Endorsed by: Mobilization Against War and Occupation (MAWO), Vancouver
> Communities in Solidarity with Cuba (VCSC), Iranian Community Against War
>
> Washington, DC
> <https://solidaritycenter.ourpowerbase.net/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=335&qid=130471>
> National March on Washington: Hands off Venezuela!
> Saturday, March 16 | 12pm
> Gather at Lafayette Park
>
> <https://solidaritycenter.ourpowerbase.net/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=336&qid=130471>
> Mass National Mobilization to Oppose NATO, War & Racism and Oppose US War on
> Venezuela at 2019 NATO Summit in Washington DC
> Saturday, March 30 | 1pm
> Lafayette Park (across from the White House)
> Additional actions will take place at the opening of the NATO meeting on
> April 4.
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> For a full list of over 2,500 individuals and 200+ organizations,
> <https://solidaritycenter.ourpowerbase.net/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=337&qid=130471>
> see here
>
> Organizations
>
> * International Action Center
> * Alberto Lovera Bolivarian Circle New York
> * Alliance for Global Justice
> * ANTICONQUISTA
> * BAYAN
> * Black Alliance for Peace
> * Fight for Im/migrants and Refugees Everywhere (FIRE)
> * Freedom Road Socialist Organization (FRSO)
> * Haïti Liberté
> * IFCO/Pastors for Peace
> * International League of Peoples' Struggle (ILPS)
> * La Peña del Bronx
> * Mobilization Against War and Occupation – MAWO (Canada)
> * MOVE Organization
> * People's Organization for Progress (POP)
> * Popular Resistance
> * The ProLibertad Freedom Campaign
> * Samidoun Palestinian Prisoner Solidarity Network
> * United National Antiwar Coalition (UNAC)
> * USW Local 8751 Boston School Bus Drivers Union
> * U.S. Peace Council
> * Veterans For Peace
>
> Individuals
>
> * Susan Abulhawa, author
> * Pam Africa, International Concerned Family and Friends of Mumia Abu-Jamal
> * Alexey Albu, BOROTBA, Lugansk, Lugansk People's Republic
> * Bahman Azad, U.S. Peace Council
> * Ajamu Baraka, National Organizer - Black Alliance for Peace
> * Fr. Luis Barrios, Holyrood Church/Iglesia Santa Cruz, NYC
> * Mike Bento, NYC Shut It Down
> * Alison Bodine, Mobilization Against War and Occupation-MAWO (Canada)
> * William Camacaro, Alberto Lovera Bolivarian Circle New York
> * Joe Catron, Samidoun Palestinian Prisoner Solidarity Network
> * Edward Childs, UNITE-HERE Local 26
> * George Ciccariello-Maher, The Hemispheric Institute
> * Dan Cohen, Journalist
> * Gerry Condon, President, Board of Directors, Veterans For Peace
> * Jodi Dean, Professor
> * Miguel Figueroa, Canadian Peace Congress, Toronto, ON, Canada
> * Taryn Fivek, International Action Center
> * Sara Flounders, International Action Center
> * Margaret Flowers, Coordinator of Popular Resistance
> * Ramiro Funez, ANTICONQUISTA, Los Angeles CA
> * George Galloway, British Politician; Stop the War Coalition (UK)
> * Teresa Gutierrez, Fight for Im/migrants and Refugees Everywhere (FIRE)
> * Lawrence Hamm, Chair of Peoples Organization for Progress (POP)
> * Chris Hedges, Writer
> * Rémy Herrera, Writer, Paris
> * Foad Izadi, Assistant professor, Department of American Studies,
> University of Tehran
> * Chuck Kaufman, Alliance for Global Justice
> * Rev. Tong-Kyun Kim, The Least of These Church (Progressive Korean Church)
> * Margaret Kimberley, Senior Editor - Black Agenda Report; Black Alliance
> for Peace
> * Stevan Kirschbaum, Vice President, United Steelworkers, Local 8751, Boston
> School Bus Union
> * Daniel Kovalik, Journalist
> * Judith Cashin Lerma, RNC MSN CCM with National Nurses United/National
> Nurses Organizing Committee
> * Joe Lombardo, United National Antiwar Coalition (UNAC)
> * Alfred L. Marder, President, US Peace Council; Vice President, World Peace
> Council
> * Cynthia McKinney, Former U.S. congressperson and Green Party presidential
> candidate
> * Monica Moorehead, Workers World Party 2016 presidential candidate
> * Ben Norton, Journalist
> * Miko Peled, Author
> * Minnie Bruce Pratt, UAW/National Writers Union Local 1981
> * Sami Ramadani, Stop the War Coalition (UK)
> * Cindy Sheehan, Executive Boardmember, March on the Pentagon
> * Roger Waters, Musician
> * John Wight, Journalist
> * Kevin Zeese, Coordinator of Popular Resistance, Baltimore MD
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