Sunday, February 3, 2019

Re: [blind-democracy] Re: The Saudi teen and Canada

Dear Mostafa,
Throughout recorded history Man has proposed many Beliefs regarding
how we came to be clinging to this little bit of gravel whirling
around a huge blast furnace.
This vast collection of theories should give us some indication that
we are merely guessing. And of course, our recorded history is based
on centuries of pre-recorded speculation. When we found that we could
not explain an occurrence, we created a God or a Spirit or an Evil
Serpent tempting us to go against the desires of our Created God. We
passed these stories along from one generation to the next,
embellishing them and creating additional stories to prove that they
really existed.
When a written language appeared, these stories were set in print.
Eventually the collection of stories became pronounced as Holy
Utterances from the Mouth of our Particular Deity
And yet, no one ever saw one of these Creations, nor did anyone see
the Deity sitting with pen in hand, before a Golden Ledger. We
imagined it. Has anyone ever located the clay tablets which Moses
supposedly brought down from the mountain?
Where is the original Koran? And who has kept the original Bible?
Perhaps, since our senses are so narrow and limited, perhaps there are
all sorts of Beings and Activities going on around us, and through us.
But we have not found a way to connect with any of them, so we are
able to create to our hearts content.
Personally I do not concern myself with attempting to convince anyone
that they are mistaken and I am correct. What I write is simply the
way I currently see my world. I am filled with contentment here in my
world. I can only hope you are content in yours. We'll never agree.
Nor will we ever need to agree. This "Human Experiment" has been a
disaster for more years than we've had Gods. Once Man became the
dominant animal life form, with the use of fire and tools and a vivid
imagination, Man embarked on the road to His own demise. And because
of Man's unique brain, He knows that his days are numbered if He
continues on this same road. He must change His ways...but so far He
can't. So Man has a fall back position. Man, and Man alone, has a
Life Beyond Life.
I say it's hokey. You say it is real.
One of us is right and one of us is wrong. End of discussion.

Cordially,
Carl Jarvis


On 2/1/19, Mostafa Almahdy <mostafa.almahdy@gmail.com> wrote:
> Roger calls me arrogant because I persist to stand by my values. Well,
> in this thread, I'll expose Atheism's arrogance and how it
> deliberately misleads tons of lay innocents. Atheism is essentially
> based on Misotheism. What is Misotheism? Basically, it is the
> intrinsic despise, intolerant disposal and unjustified antipathy of
> the divine. So, Roger and his peers are absolute Misotheists. I urge
> you folks to get a book called (The Last Word) by (Thomas Nagel). He
> received his PhD in philosophy from Harvard University in (1963).
> Currently, he is the director of philosophy department at the
> university of New York. He wrote the following in his aforementioned
> book. "I want Atheism to be true. It isn't just that I don't believe
> in God and naturally hope that I am right in my belief. It is that I
> hope there is no God. I don't want there to be a God. I don't want the
> universe to be like that." So, from the very words of this Atheistic
> philosopher, we could conclude the following. Atheism is essentially
> based on Misotheism. So, Misotheists determine to be perfectly
> irreverent and then, they go out and look for justifications. These
> justifications may seem reasonable. However, within the least of
> contemplation, none of them are. Their justifications of being
> Atheists, or in this case Misotheists, are quite counterfeit. They
> range between science and philosophy. Science is primarily meant to
> explicate physical, chemical or biological discoveries for human
> advancement and welfare. Philosophy has been meant to reutilise the
> intellectual faculty to help humans to think properly. None of these
> scholarly disciplines calls people to become Atheists, sorry,
> Misotheists. Misotheism is a deadly major threat to faith and
> thought-provoking process. Carl here represents unsound conclusion of
> philosophy to justify Misotheism while Roger represents an alleged
> mastery of science. As Thomas Nagel fairly admitted, his actual cause
> of being Atheist are his pro misotheistic convictions. Roger, however,
> doesn't have sufficient courage to admit that. I think we need to
> pause the conversation a bit and ask, what are the root causes of
> Atheism's broad emergence in the west? First, there is immense
> deficiency of genuine spiritual experience in the western culture. As
> I said earlier, the west is deeply drowned in materialism. Even those
> who regularly attend Church service, are not spiritually satisfied.
> There is materialistic dominance within even houses of worship. The
> west has been known to relentlessly subjugate religious affairs by
> brutal impudence. Films have been made, featuring Jesus a homophile.
> Opprobriously slanderous caricature and vomitous cartoon misportrayed
> prophet Muhammad. Westerns knew how to offend Muslims and that's
> through openly denigrating their religion's most sacred symbles and
> characters. They somewhat succeeded to drive many Muslims insane
> through horrifically stimulating their emotions to faith combined with
> considerable outrage. That's what Misotheism does. It justifies its
> immutable disposition through provoking their major rival's offence to
> keep indicting them of fanaticism and violence. That is quite tricky
> and relatively unethical. In medieval era, the Church banned
> scientific development. Post to that, pro materialists defamed
> religion. Both of them are relevantly affiliated with provincial
> prejudices. Faith of that time ostracised science because it's
> ungodly. Well at presently, science denounces faith because it's
> intellectually retarded and outdated. Both are incorrect. In
> conclusion then, there is no any philosophical or scientific reason
> that justifies or excuses irreverence. God, with his unprecedented
> omnipotence and infinitely providential sapience has created this
> extraordinarily vast and unadulterated universe. Of course, even
> Atheists couldn't deny the universe's quite obvious perfect design.
> How could all this be just incidental? You may barely look at the
> DNA's complicated complex. How could this amazingly structured set of
> cells that has millions of genetically patrimonial information be made
> by chance? I'm addressing both, your conscience and cognizance. Faith
> is precious and Atheism is vicious. The belief that life is
> purposeless is of delusional origin. Thank you, Mustafa
>
>
>
> On 1/31/19, Roger Loran Bailey <rogerbailey81@aol.com> wrote:
>> Mostafa, you are missing a very important valid concern that needs to be
>> tackled, your obnoxious self righteousness. D
>> Do you really think you are going to convert anyone as long as you hold
>> yourself up to be so superior to them? Do you really think that when
>> you arrogantly accuse other people of being arrogant you are engaging in
>> civil discussion? Really, a while back you did say that you wanted to
>> engage in civil discussion. Then without any hesitation you launched
>> into name calling, childish insults, tantrums and self righteous
>> bragging about how moral you are. Is this really what you call civil?
>>
>> ________________________________________________
>> Jules Verne
>> " Reality provides us with facts so romantic that imagination itself
>> could
>> add nothing to them. "
>> ― Jules Verne
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/31/2019 2:04 PM, Mostafa Almahdy wrote:
>>> Roger's sense of logic is valueless. He insists to denounce faith.
>>> He's morally disgraced. He imperiously presumes he's superior to me in
>>> gumption. Well, he cowardly flees rational evidence. He's barely stuck
>>> to empirical grounds. As a damnable senior, he won't last for long.
>>> Atheism teaches relativism. It ignominiously breaches moral precepts.
>>> Atheists live a pathetic life. Their primal purpose is to amply
>>> indulge animalistic desires. Morals to them are proportional to
>>> individuals. what is right for you might not be necessarily so for me
>>> and vice versa. People commonly become Atheists for variously
>>> unpleasant experiences in life. Generically, people resort to Atheism
>>> for being broadly baffled on the concept or the doctrine of theodicy.
>>> Whether a coherent explanation is offered, they still are fixed into
>>> their denial. It won't be undiminished even if God and His angels were
>>> personated to them. Mass Christendom prophesies that God is physically
>>> incarnated. Catholicism depicted saints into sculptures and explicitly
>>> idolised them. Consequently, protestantism emerged and declined these
>>> acts. Nevertheless, it still personifies the divine into forcible
>>> immanency. Thence, Atheism has incredibly increased in the west and
>>> beyond. The personification of the divine is one of the major factors
>>> by which Atheism has enormously propagated. The western world staggers
>>> with precarious moral values. The reason for that is its utterly
>>> inundation in philistinism. Truly, the west has reach the peak of
>>> advancement in essentially empirical fields. So, medicine,
>>> engineering, science etc, the west is incomparably the meridian.
>>> But, from the moral perspective, the west failed a great deal. This is
>>> practically proven in diverse spectrums. Each and everything there is
>>> based on material. Even so-called moral tenets, are measured with
>>> materialistic values. So for instance, pornography is theoretically
>>> reprobated. Unless it's good for material value. So, it hasn't been
>>> outlawed. There are billions of dollars spent on this field in the US
>>> and Canada. Why couldn't conservative senators or parliament staff
>>> advocate for banning porn pertained business? Because they won't be
>>> okayed. The design and creation of erotica helps the economy. It's a
>>> major source of income for numerously local companies. So, we need
>>> really to identify the direct affiliation between the emergence of
>>> Atheism and the absence of moral values in the west. Furthermore, the
>>> justification of what moral fundementals consider illicit. Another
>>> example, whereas the girl vows not to break her virginity unless in a
>>> licit relationship. But, many of young women fell in illicit wedlock.
>>> Well, even farther, they may have been involved in criminal
>>> conversation. I think it's absolutely necessary to tackle these valid
>>> concerns.
>>>
>>> On 1/30/19, Roger Loran Bailey <rogerbailey81@aol.com> wrote:
>>>> I dispute your premises starting with your first sentence. As we know
>>>> the universe could not be purposeless. Just how do we know that? Please
>>>> provide an answer that has something to do with it being true. You
>>>> really do have a problem providing answers that have something to do
>>>> with your assertions being true. That is especially apparent when you
>>>> start throwing your childish insults as if that has something to do
>>>> with
>>>> your assertions being true. However, I think most people would agree
>>>> with the request for an answer that has something to do with the
>>>> assertion being true as a reasonable request. As for your subsequent
>>>> syllogism, it is certainly logical to state that all things that began
>>>> to exist have a cause and since the universe started to exist it
>>>> therefore has a cause. But, again, let me remind you of something that
>>>> I
>>>> have already tried to teach you. Logic is only an information
>>>> processing
>>>> system. You feed information in one end and then process it to get
>>>> information that you did not have before. It works just as well with
>>>> false information as it does with true information. It's just that when
>>>> you start with true information you will get true conclusions and when
>>>> you start with false information you will get false conclusions. If you
>>>> want your logic to give you truth you had better check the validity of
>>>> your premises. I will allow that the universe exists insofar as we are
>>>> manifestations of its existence. But how do you know that it started to
>>>> exist? How do you know that it has not always existed in some form or
>>>> another without a beginning? I am not denying that there was a start. I
>>>> simply don't know if there was or not. Yet you have the nerve to tell
>>>> me
>>>> that I am arrogant. I am the one who admits that there is so much more,
>>>> perhaps an infinity, that I do not know than there is that I do know
>>>> and
>>>> yet you, who claims to have the absolute answers about the reasons for
>>>> the existence of the universe itself, call me arrogant. I charge you
>>>> with gross hypocrisy for that arrogance. Furthermore, when you claim
>>>> that all that has been created needs a creator and that the universe
>>>> must have been created because it exists and so must have had a creator
>>>> then you demonstrate the circular reasoning simply by making that
>>>> claim.
>>>> I do call it circular reasoning, but you demonstrate it. Now, what are
>>>> we going to get this time? More childish insults? If you can't refute
>>>> my
>>>> points then childish insults just continue to validate my points. As
>>>> for
>>>> my failure to relent with you, well, I can give as well as I get. You
>>>> are the one who chooses to push these absurdities on other people who
>>>> are uninterested and don't want to be beaten over the head with it. So
>>>> do I annoy you by standing up to you? As long as you just keep annoying
>>>> other people in that way I am unlikely to tire of annoying you right
>>>> back.
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________________________
>>>> Jules Verne
>>>> " Reality provides us with facts so romantic that imagination itself
>>>> could
>>>> add nothing to them. "
>>>> ― Jules Verne
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1/30/2019 8:02 AM, Mostafa Almahdy wrote:
>>>>> As we know, the universe couldn't be purposeless. Thence, the concept
>>>>> of the divine preexisted the provenience of human race. The claim that
>>>>> man created the concept of God is immensely delusional. Atheists
>>>>> deliberately dispose theistic rational argument. I don't need to enter
>>>>> into another useless debate. At the same time, I don't like fools to
>>>>> think I fled. Here's a basically structured logical argument,
>>>>> featuring the existence of the universe. Premiss one, everything that
>>>>> begins to exist has a cause. Premiss two, the universe began to exist.
>>>>> Conclusion, the universe has a cause. Roger falsely calls this stiffly
>>>>> logical chronology (circular reasoning). I don't need to debate an
>>>>> arbitrary arguer. Roger doesn't like rational evidence. He
>>>>> intentionally dismisses them and fallaciously devotes himself to
>>>>> empirical effrontery. He is irreverently fanatic. It's truly a waste
>>>>> of time to converse with this arrogantly stubborn guy. There is
>>>>> multiplicity of decisive evidence that are necessarily resolving the
>>>>> existence of the divine. They incessantly proliferate as time passes
>>>>> on. Atheists collectively are minor to cosmological evidence for God's
>>>>> existence. Psychically, faith and reason meant to align. Atheism
>>>>> destroys human apprehension. Fortunately, I met and spoke to locally
>>>>> unconscious onomatopoeical Atheists. They unconsciously mimic their
>>>>> western mentors. Atheism justifies irrationality and calls for
>>>>> iniquity. Atheists are callously conscienceless. With even calculus
>>>>> evidence, God's existence could possibly be proven. What brought us to
>>>>> this point though? I was talking about the teen Saudi girl who had
>>>>> been taken advantage of. As usual, Roger, this imprecisely rabid
>>>>> Atheist, has coerced the God debate into the initial discussion. Why?
>>>>> Because he has enormous antipathy of faith and believers. He's utterly
>>>>> wrapped with intemperate nescience and discourtesy. He's therefore to
>>>>> be portrayed the Donald Trump of this list. Accordingly, I justly
>>>>> marked all of his direct threads to me to automatically be delivered
>>>>> to the trash folder. I do not need to waste my time pointlessly
>>>>> debating a senior dormant of the United States. He won't ever be
>>>>> convinced unless he ultimately dies and faces his awful destiny. He
>>>>> truly resembles trump's supercilious rhetoric. This is me, from a
>>>>> third world nation, telling a citizen of the United States, you're
>>>>> radically stupefied. You pretend you're educated but you're not. I do
>>>>> not like what I just wrote. Roger forced me to do so. I obviously am
>>>>> not convincing anyone here. I have no problem with this. I just would
>>>>> like us to be sanely accountable and adhere the main point of the
>>>>> subject. I, without any constitutional rights of any nation in the
>>>>> world, have the fully reserved right to criticise the secular and
>>>>> atheistic west because it furiously attempts to manipulate our culture
>>>>> and identity. This war is essentially based on thoughts and
>>>>> convictions. The west funds depraved people, particularly
>>>>> secularists to systematically denigrate faith and cause cultural
>>>>> chaos. They regularly appear in major broadcasts to gradually
>>>>> disinform lay locals. I stand firm in this cultural combat. We won't
>>>>> allow those who're bribed to do what westerns want. They criminally
>>>>> wish to secularise our identity and ruin our heritage. They
>>>>> erroneously assume they could reach up to that acrimonious objective.
>>>>> However, they inshAllah won't ever prosper. I'm done with this piece.
>>>>> I hope everyone clearly discerns who am I. I don't hate others as long
>>>>> as they stay away from attempting to change us or manipulate the way
>>>>> we live. I do not ask you to embrace my lifestyle. At the same time,
>>>>> any attempt to manipulate or regulate our way of life, despite your
>>>>> opinion of it is despised and declined. Is this plain? I hope so.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/29/19, Roger Loran Bailey <rogerbailey81@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>> It seems that we are back to the childish insults. I actually kind of
>>>>>> like that. Every time I back you into a logic corner and you have no
>>>>>> response to my points you start throwing the insults and throwing
>>>>>> tantrums. That validates my position. For yourself, though, you are
>>>>>> doing a disservice. When you have no refutation for my points that
>>>>>> must
>>>>>> mean that you are wrong. That is the time that for your own sake you
>>>>>> should change your mind and allow yourself to grow, to grow
>>>>>> intellectually. Throwing tantrums and insults are not going to help
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> to learn anything.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ________________________________________________
>>>>>> Jules Verne
>>>>>> " Reality provides us with facts so romantic that imagination itself
>>>>>> could
>>>>>> add nothing to them. "
>>>>>> ― Jules Verne
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/29/2019 12:34 PM, Mostafa Almahdy wrote:
>>>>>>> You live infelicitous and will die in misery. You somewhat consider
>>>>>>> yourself vainglorious. Nevertheless, you are inglorious and just an
>>>>>>> abject senior of the US. you're worthy of nothing but contempt. I
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> marked your messages to appear only in my trash. That way, the
>>>>>>> subject
>>>>>>> is matching with its essence.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1/29/19, Roger Loran Bailey <rogerbailey81@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> And how do you know that to be true, Mostafa? Please provide an
>>>>>>>> answer
>>>>>>>> that has something to do with it being true.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ________________________________________________
>>>>>>>> Jules Verne
>>>>>>>> " Reality provides us with facts so romantic that imagination
>>>>>>>> itself
>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>> add nothing to them. "
>>>>>>>> ― Jules Verne
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 1/28/2019 10:13 PM, Mostafa Almahdy wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Roger is despicable and destined to eternal perdition.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 1/29/19, Roger Loran Bailey <rogerbailey81@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> My response is that this points up more of the hideous nature of
>>>>>>>>>> religion,
>>>>>>>>>> this contempt for the rights of women. It is despicable. Religion
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> despicable.
>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> Jules Verne
>>>>>>>>>> " Reality provides us with facts so romantic that imagination
>>>>>>>>>> itself
>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>> add nothing to them. "
>>>>>>>>>> ― Jules Verne
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 1/28/2019 8:18 PM, Mostafa Almahdy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone, I hope you are keeping really well. This is me,
>>>>>>>>>>> Mustafa Almahdy from Cairo Egypt. I am a certified Azharian
>>>>>>>>>>> theologian. At almost the middle of this month, we've seen a
>>>>>>>>>>> story
>>>>>>>>>>> that has sparked mass attention in major news broadcasts. It's
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> ridiculous story of indoctrinated teenaged Saudi female called
>>>>>>>>>>> Rahaf
>>>>>>>>>>> Al qanun. In each and every family anywhere in the world, there
>>>>>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>>>>>> be miscommunication between parents and children. Rahaf fled her
>>>>>>>>>>> family and allowed aliens to unlawfully intervene between her
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> her
>>>>>>>>>>> family. She fled her family in Bangkok's International Airport.
>>>>>>>>>>> Therein, she used social media to forge a predicament.
>>>>>>>>>>> Subsequently,
>>>>>>>>>>> she left the airport of Bangkok under UN care. She was being
>>>>>>>>>>> headed
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> Austrailia. For some reason though, Canada granted the faker
>>>>>>>>>>> teen
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> status of asylum. At her glorious arrival to Toronto's
>>>>>>>>>>> international
>>>>>>>>>>> airport, the Canadian foreign minister, Chrystia Freeland was
>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>> her reception. I include the Canadian foreign minister along
>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> prime minister, Justin Trudeau among the recipients of this
>>>>>>>>>>> piece.
>>>>>>>>>>> Therefore, contact information is undisclosed. Now, to both, mr
>>>>>>>>>>> Trudeau and his foreign minister, why would you unethically
>>>>>>>>>>> spoof
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> teenaged girl into a viciously political game? She's been taken
>>>>>>>>>>> advantage of. We knew that Saudi expelled your ambassador and
>>>>>>>>>>> suspended upcoming investment transactions for illicitly
>>>>>>>>>>> attempting
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> interfere in the kingdom's domestic affairs. Thereof, Canada's
>>>>>>>>>>> government wickedly vitiated the situation of Rahaf to somewhat
>>>>>>>>>>> dramatise the currently heightening tense between the two
>>>>>>>>>>> countries.
>>>>>>>>>>> Nevertheless, the Canadian government must concede to the fact
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> attempts to secularise Muslims societies in the counterfeit
>>>>>>>>>>> name
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> human rights global guard. If you say so, why wouldn't you
>>>>>>>>>>> intervene
>>>>>>>>>>> to end or at least eliminate the terrifically exasperating human
>>>>>>>>>>> crisis in Syria? What for would you spend enormous welfare on
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> Saudi disowned teen? you have no desired interest to gain unless
>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>> seek to stir up broad compassion. As Canadian parliamentary
>>>>>>>>>>> election
>>>>>>>>>>> is around the corner, mr Trudeau's government is attempting to
>>>>>>>>>>> win
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> majority of votes. Human rights shibboleths have been
>>>>>>>>>>> politicised
>>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>> the Canadian government. What would be the Saudi rebellious
>>>>>>>>>>> adolescent
>>>>>>>>>>> prospect in Canada? Due to the fact that she has no authentic
>>>>>>>>>>> qualification, she'll barely sell Sheesha at Arabic cafes in
>>>>>>>>>>> Toronto
>>>>>>>>>>> streets. Human rights is a bogus tactic. It is primarily
>>>>>>>>>>> exercised
>>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>> western secular regimes to directly intervene in our affairs.
>>>>>>>>>>> Each
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> every apostate somewhere in the Muslim world attempts to gain
>>>>>>>>>>> fame
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> spark attention through faking a story of alleged persecution.
>>>>>>>>>>> Consequently, these stories must thoroughly be tackled. This is
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> situation of failures and unknown members of the society. There
>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> psychologically declined behaviour within these malcontented
>>>>>>>>>>> acts.
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> won't deny that there is plain breach of human rights principles
>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> almost all Arab states. However, if someone seeks to gain
>>>>>>>>>>> appeal,
>>>>>>>>>>> asylum or whatever, why would he need to publicise a dramatical
>>>>>>>>>>> account? Why wouldn't he just go through ordinary procedures?
>>>>>>>>>>> Now,
>>>>>>>>>>> mr
>>>>>>>>>>> Trudeau, I urge you to fairly respond to the following question.
>>>>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>>>>> you are truly the primary guardian of human rights worldwide as
>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>> foreign minister claimed, why won't you demand the
>>>>>>>>>>> administration
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> Israeli detention center to immediately release incarcerated
>>>>>>>>>>> women
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> children? Would you dare even to think of this? The deceit has
>>>>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>>>>> been wholly exposed. No government anywhere in the world
>>>>>>>>>>> interferes
>>>>>>>>>>> into other nation's affairs unless an interest is sought. As we
>>>>>>>>>>> say
>>>>>>>>>>> here in Egypt, it's not done for the sake of God and Patriotism.
>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>> situation of the teenaged girl has been fully taken advantage
>>>>>>>>>>> of.
>>>>>>>>>>> In
>>>>>>>>>>> other words, it has been politicised. If respect is considered,
>>>>>>>>>>> she
>>>>>>>>>>> should have been returned to her family. Would you allow your
>>>>>>>>>>> daughter
>>>>>>>>>>> to go abroad without your consent? If she had been abused as she
>>>>>>>>>>> said
>>>>>>>>>>> and that's quite possible, she could have reported her case to
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> police. But no, she wanted to cause emotional attention and she
>>>>>>>>>>> somewhat succeeded. Canada, however, has taken advantage of the
>>>>>>>>>>> situation for essentially political objectives. What about the
>>>>>>>>>>> status
>>>>>>>>>>> of many homeless and domestically abused women in your country?
>>>>>>>>>>> What
>>>>>>>>>>> have you done to them so far? Lastly, this is me, Mustafa from
>>>>>>>>>>> Cairo
>>>>>>>>>>> Egypt. I'm just keeping you noticed, that despite the deliberate
>>>>>>>>>>> fraudulence in mass western media, there are sane and edified
>>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>>> who fathom the proper truth. The war waged on us now is of
>>>>>>>>>>> cultural
>>>>>>>>>>> nature. It's certainly more dangerous than the one that involves
>>>>>>>>>>> tanks
>>>>>>>>>>> and bombs. Thank you for reading. If you like to comment, you
>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>> respond to this post. Mustafa Almahdy
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> (Seeking knowledge is compulsory from cratle to grave because it is a
> shoreless ocean.)
>
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