Sunday, October 4, 2015

Re: [blind-democracy] One Day After Warning Russia of Civilian Casualties, the US Bombs a Hospital in Afghanistan

Murder is murder, whether it is by the hand of an insane young man
randomly killing students and faculty at a peaceful community college,
or by the approval of the president of the United States. Even as
president Obama denounced those cold murders in Roseburg, Oregon,
plans were being made to destroy a hospital in Afghanistan, staffed
with members of Doctor's Without Borders.
Well Mister Obama, if you believe American lives are so much more
valuable, then you are an elitist of the rankest order. I regret
voting for you in 2008. When the Day of Accounting arrives, your
murders will far outweigh your tears for our innocent American
children.

Carl Jarvis


On 10/3/15, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@optonline.net> wrote:
> Seems like we're taking lessons from Israel. Remember their bombing of
> hospitals last summer in Gaza? And this too, apparently, was no accident.
> Miriam
>
> Greenwald writes: "Early this morning, in the Afghan city of Kunduz, the
> U.S. dropped bombs on a hospital run by Doctors Without Borders (Medecins
> Sans Frontieres (MSF)). The airstrike killed at least 9 of the hospital's
> medical staff, and seriously injured dozens of patients. 'Among the dead
> was
> the Afghan head of the hospital, Abdul Sattar,' reported The New York
> Times."
>
> Glenn Greenwald. (photo: Occupy.com)
>
>
> One Day After Warning Russia of Civilian Casualties, the US Bombs a
> Hospital
> in Afghanistan
> By Glenn Greenwald, The Intercept
> 03 October 15
>
> esterday afternoon, U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Samantha Power
> marched to Twitter to proclaim: "we call on Russia to immediately cease
> attacks on Syrian oppo[sition and] civilians." Along with that decree, she
> posted a statement from the U.S. and several of its closest authoritarian
> allies – including Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the UK – warning Russia that
> civilian casualties "will only fuel more extremism and radicalization."
> Early this morning, in the Afghan city of Kunduz, the U.S. dropped bombs on
> a hospital run by Doctors Without Borders (Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF)).
> The airstrike killed at least 9 of the hospital's medical staff, and
> seriously injured dozens of patients. "Among the dead was the Afghan head
> of
> the hospital, Abdul Sattar," reported The New York Times.
> Jason Cone, MSF's Executive Director, said the medical charity "condemns in
> the strongest possible terms the horrific bombing of its hospital in Kunduz
> full of staff and patients." He added that "all parties [to the] conflict,
> including in Kabul & Washington, were clearly informed of precise GPS
> Coordinates of MSF facilities in Kunduz," and that the "precise location of
> MSF Kunduz hospital [was] communicated to all parties on multiple occasions
> over past months, including on 9/29." Worst of all, from MSF itself:
> For its part, the U.S. military in Afghanistan issued a statement
> acknowledging that it carried out airstrikes, claimed they were conducted
> "against individuals threatening the force," and conceded that "the strike
> may have resulted in collateral damage to a nearby medical facility." But
> the NYT reported: "From early on, the Taliban had respected the hospital's
> request not to bring weapons inside, according to staff members, and the
> hospital had been a refuge in the shattered city of Kunduz. It was a place
> where the wounded from all sides were treated."
> The medical organization noted that "our hospital in Kunduz was the only
> one
> of its kind in NorthEastern Afghanistan." It referenced a now-poignant
> tweet
> it posted earlier in the week:
> Now, however, the Twitter accounts of various MSF branches are filled with
> horrific photographs of their staff traumatized and their hospital burning
> as a result of U.S. bombs:
> MSF's full, frequently updated, hard-to-read account of all of this is
> here.
> This strike on a hospital in Afghanistan comes days after the Saudi-led
> coalition bombed a wedding in Yemen that killed more than 130 people. After
> days of silence from the U.S. Government – which has actively participated
> from the start in the heinous bombing of Yemen – Ambassador Power finally
> acknowledged the wedding massacre, but treated it like some natural
> disaster
> that has nothing to do with the U.S.: "Terrible news from Yemen of killing
> of innocent civilians & aid workers. Urgently need pol solution to crisis,"
> she tweeted.
> Her accompanying statement claimed that "the United States has no role in
> the targeting decisions made by the Coalition in Yemen," but yesterday, the
> Saudi Foreign Minister told CBS News that "We work with our allies
> including
> the United States on these targets." There's no dispute that the U.S. has
> lavished the Saudis with all sorts of weapons and intelligence as it
> carries
> out its civilian-massacring attacks on Yemen.
> This last week has been a particularly gruesome illustration of continuous
> U.S. conduct under the War on Terror banner, including under the Nobel
> Peace
> Prize-winning president who celebrates himself for "ending two wars" (in
> the
> same two countries where the U.S. continues to drop bombs). The formula by
> now is clear: bombing whatever countries it wants, justifying it all by
> reflexively labeling their targets as "terrorists," and then dishonestly
> denying or casually dismissing the civilians they slaughter as "collateral
> damage." If one were to construct a list of all the countries in the world
> based on their credibility to condemn Russia for using this exact
> rhetorical
> template in Syria, the U.S. would literally be last on that list.
> UPDATE: U.S. officials went to TIME Magazine yesterday to announce that
> Russia will be creating more terrorists than they kill as a result of
> misguided airstrikes in Syria. "We believe if you inadvertently kill
> innocent men, women and children, then there's a backlash from that,"
> Lieut.
> General Bob Otto, the Air Force's deputy chief of staff for intelligence,
> surveillance and reconnaissance said. "We might kill three and create 10
> terrorists. It really goes back to the question of are we killing more than
> were making?"
> It's impossible to fathom what the U.S. media would be saying and doing if
> Russia did something like this in Syria. By contrast, the reaction to this
> airstrike by their own government will be muted and filled with apologia,
> ironically quite similar to the widely vilified caricature of Jeb Bush's
> comments about the Oregon shooting spree: "stuff happens."
> UPDATE II: Al Jazeera reports that the hospital bombed by the U.S. "is the
> only medical facility in the region that can deal with major injuries."
> Nonetheless, "officials of MSF … told Reuters that they 'frantically
> phoned'
> NATO and Washington DC, as bombs rained on the hospital for 'nearly an
> hour.'"
> UPDATE III: The latest casualty figures from MSF:
> Speaking to the nation just three days ago about the Oregon shooting spree,
> Barack Obama said: "This is a political choice that we make, to allow this
> to happen every few months…" That applies to a lot more than that incident.
> UPDATE IV: Several reports suggest that this hospital has been viewed with
> hostility because it treats all injured human beings, regardless of which
> side they're on. "The hospital treated the wounded from all sides of the
> conflict, a policy that has long irked the Afghan security forces," reports
> the NYT. Al Jazeera notes that "a caretaker at the hospital, who was
> severely injured in the air strike, told Al Jazeera that clinic's medical
> staff did not favour any side the conflict. 'We are here to help and treat
> civilians,' Abdul Manar said." That same caretaker added: "Several women
> and
> children are also killed in the strike. I could hear them screaming for
> help
> inside the hospital while it was set ablaze by the bombing. We are
> terrified
> and speechless."
> UPDATE V: The U.N. human rights chief has denounced the U.S. airstrike as
> "tragic, inexcusable, and possibly even criminal."
> This is not the first time this has happened. In 2004, U.S. airstrikes in
> Falluja, Iraq hit a hospital and "razed it to the ground."
> Error! Hyperlink reference not valid. Error! Hyperlink reference not
> valid.
>
> Glenn Greenwald. (photo: Occupy.com)
> https://theintercept.com/2015/10/03/one-day-after-warning-russia-of-civilian
> -casualties-the-u-s-bombs-a-hospital-in-the-war-obama-ended/https://theinter
> cept.com/2015/10/03/one-day-after-warning-russia-of-civilian-casualties-the-
> u-s-bombs-a-hospital-in-the-war-obama-ended/
> One Day After Warning Russia of Civilian Casualties, the US Bombs a
> Hospital
> in Afghanistan
> By Glenn Greenwald, The Intercept
> 03 October 15
> esterday afternoon, U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Samantha Power
> marched to Twitter to proclaim: "we call on Russia to immediately cease
> attacks on Syrian oppo[sition and] civilians." Along with that decree, she
> posted a statement from the U.S. and several of its closest authoritarian
> allies – including Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the UK – warning Russia that
> civilian casualties "will only fuel more extremism and radicalization."
> Early this morning, in the Afghan city of Kunduz, the U.S. dropped bombs on
> a hospital run by Doctors Without Borders (Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF)).
> The airstrike killed at least 9 of the hospital's medical staff, and
> seriously injured dozens of patients. "Among the dead was the Afghan head
> of
> the hospital, Abdul Sattar," reported The New York Times.
> Jason Cone, MSF's Executive Director, said the medical charity "condemns in
> the strongest possible terms the horrific bombing of its hospital in Kunduz
> full of staff and patients." He added that "all parties [to the] conflict,
> including in Kabul & Washington, were clearly informed of precise GPS
> Coordinates of MSF facilities in Kunduz," and that the "precise location of
> MSF Kunduz hospital [was] communicated to all parties on multiple occasions
> over past months, including on 9/29." Worst of all, from MSF itself:
> For its part, the U.S. military in Afghanistan issued a statement
> acknowledging that it carried out airstrikes, claimed they were conducted
> "against individuals threatening the force," and conceded that "the strike
> may have resulted in collateral damage to a nearby medical facility." But
> the NYT reported: "From early on, the Taliban had respected the hospital's
> request not to bring weapons inside, according to staff members, and the
> hospital had been a refuge in the shattered city of Kunduz. It was a place
> where the wounded from all sides were treated."
> The medical organization noted that "our hospital in Kunduz was the only
> one
> of its kind in NorthEastern Afghanistan." It referenced a now-poignant
> tweet
> it posted earlier in the week:
> Now, however, the Twitter accounts of various MSF branches are filled with
> horrific photographs of their staff traumatized and their hospital burning
> as a result of U.S. bombs:
> MSF's full, frequently updated, hard-to-read account of all of this is
> here.
> This strike on a hospital in Afghanistan comes days after the Saudi-led
> coalition bombed a wedding in Yemen that killed more than 130 people. After
> days of silence from the U.S. Government – which has actively participated
> from the start in the heinous bombing of Yemen – Ambassador Power finally
> acknowledged the wedding massacre, but treated it like some natural
> disaster
> that has nothing to do with the U.S.: "Terrible news from Yemen of killing
> of innocent civilians & aid workers. Urgently need pol solution to crisis,"
> she tweeted.
> Her accompanying statement claimed that "the United States has no role in
> the targeting decisions made by the Coalition in Yemen," but yesterday, the
> Saudi Foreign Minister told CBS News that "We work with our allies
> including
> the United States on these targets." There's no dispute that the U.S. has
> lavished the Saudis with all sorts of weapons and intelligence as it
> carries
> out its civilian-massacring attacks on Yemen.
> This last week has been a particularly gruesome illustration of continuous
> U.S. conduct under the War on Terror banner, including under the Nobel
> Peace
> Prize-winning president who celebrates himself for "ending two wars" (in
> the
> same two countries where the U.S. continues to drop bombs). The formula by
> now is clear: bombing whatever countries it wants, justifying it all by
> reflexively labeling their targets as "terrorists," and then dishonestly
> denying or casually dismissing the civilians they slaughter as "collateral
> damage." If one were to construct a list of all the countries in the world
> based on their credibility to condemn Russia for using this exact
> rhetorical
> template in Syria, the U.S. would literally be last on that list.
> UPDATE: U.S. officials went to TIME Magazine yesterday to announce that
> Russia will be creating more terrorists than they kill as a result of
> misguided airstrikes in Syria. "We believe if you inadvertently kill
> innocent men, women and children, then there's a backlash from that,"
> Lieut.
> General Bob Otto, the Air Force's deputy chief of staff for intelligence,
> surveillance and reconnaissance said. "We might kill three and create 10
> terrorists. It really goes back to the question of are we killing more than
> were making?"
> It's impossible to fathom what the U.S. media would be saying and doing if
> Russia did something like this in Syria. By contrast, the reaction to this
> airstrike by their own government will be muted and filled with apologia,
> ironically quite similar to the widely vilified caricature of Jeb Bush's
> comments about the Oregon shooting spree: "stuff happens."
> UPDATE II: Al Jazeera reports that the hospital bombed by the U.S. "is the
> only medical facility in the region that can deal with major injuries."
> Nonetheless, "officials of MSF … told Reuters that they 'frantically
> phoned'
> NATO and Washington DC, as bombs rained on the hospital for 'nearly an
> hour.'"
> UPDATE III: The latest casualty figures from MSF:
> Speaking to the nation just three days ago about the Oregon shooting spree,
> Barack Obama said: "This is a political choice that we make, to allow this
> to happen every few months…" That applies to a lot more than that incident.
> UPDATE IV: Several reports suggest that this hospital has been viewed with
> hostility because it treats all injured human beings, regardless of which
> side they're on. "The hospital treated the wounded from all sides of the
> conflict, a policy that has long irked the Afghan security forces," reports
> the NYT. Al Jazeera notes that "a caretaker at the hospital, who was
> severely injured in the air strike, told Al Jazeera that clinic's medical
> staff did not favour any side the conflict. 'We are here to help and treat
> civilians,' Abdul Manar said." That same caretaker added: "Several women
> and
> children are also killed in the strike. I could hear them screaming for
> help
> inside the hospital while it was set ablaze by the bombing. We are
> terrified
> and speechless."
> UPDATE V: The U.N. human rights chief has denounced the U.S. airstrike as
> "tragic, inexcusable, and possibly even criminal."
> This is not the first time this has happened. In 2004, U.S. airstrikes in
> Falluja, Iraq hit a hospital and "razed it to the ground."
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