Monday, May 16, 2016

Re: [blind-democracy] No, Bill Clinton Didn't 'Kill' Himself Trying for a State of Palestine (Video)

Who was it said, "The Great White Father speaks with Forked Tongue"?
Double talk, double dealing, it has always been the method used to
advance world control by the American Industrial/Military complex.
While we lap up the slop fed to us by the Ruling Classes propaganda
media, believing that we send our loving troops, our best young men
and women, out around the world to promote democracy and independence,
we become confused by the numbers of wars that break out, the regimes
that topple and are replaced by tyrants, the growing numbers of
homeless people driven from their homelands by war and famine. What
would appear to be a totally incompetent effort, keeps on going on.
If Peace and Freedom were truly the goal of the American Empire, then
it would be best advised to bring home all troops and close all
military bases around the Globe, and allow the nations of the world to
solve their own problems.
Oh yes, we would also need to call off the greedy international banks
who hold entire national treasuries captive. But of course, we've
been deceived by that Great White Father's forked tongue. As the
worlds last Super Power, the American Empire is highly successful in
defending the right of its Corporations to rape and plunder at will.
And by the way, we, here at home, are not immune to that rape and
plunder. Our Great American Dream, a job, a home and a family, are
becoming so eroded that the dream is actually no longer the hope of
millions of Americans. We have gone from those days when Dad went off
to work while Mom cared for the home and the children. One income
earned by Dad could sustain the family. Now both Mom and Dad work,
often at two jobs, just to hang on by their fingernails. Streets and
overpasses filled with homeless. Side streets filled with cars being
used as homes for entire families. As our nation crumbles and decay
sets in, we still suck up the poisoned nectar of the Empire.
The question seems to be, Which will get us first, the Forces of
Nature, or our own Stupidity?

Carl Jarvis




On 5/16/16, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@optonline.net> wrote:
>
> No, Bill Clinton Didn't 'Kill' Himself Trying for a State of Palestine
> (Video)
> http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/no_bill_clinton_didnt_kill_himself_to_gi
> ve_the_palestinians_state_20160515/
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> Posted on May 15, 2016
> By Juan Cole
> This post originally ran on Truthdig contributor Juan Cole's website.
> Former President Bill Clinton on Saturday claimed "I killed myself to give
> the Palestinians a state," and maintained that he secured an agreement,
> which the Palestinians turned down. In fact, no such text was ever
> presented to the Palestinian side, and then Israeli Prime Minister Ehud
> Barak kept flaking out on commitments previously made, leaving the
> Palestinian negotiators with nothing to agree to. Negoatiator Aaron Miller
> later admitted, "There was not a formalized, written proposal that covered
> the four core issues. There was no deal on the table. None of the issues
> were explained enough in detail to make an agreement, though the Israelis
> made an interesting argument on Jerusalem."
> No time here to go into the paternalist and colonial language about
> "giving"
> the Palestinians a state. They are a stateless people because they are
> unrecognized; they would get a state by recognizing them as such, not
> giving
> them anything.
> Here are signs Clinton didn't put himself out that much:
> 1. From the time Clinton presided over the handshake between Israeli PM
> Yitzhak Rabin and Palestinian President Yasser Arafat in 1993 to the end of
> Clinton's term, the number of Israeli colonists on the Palestinian land
> from
> which Rabin had pledged to withdraw just about doubled. In 1993 there were
> between 95,000 and 116,000 Israeli squatters in the West Bank and Gaza. By
> 1996 there were 147,000. By 2000 there were about 200,000. These numbers
> do not include the squatters in East Jerusalem, which Israel has illegally
> annexed in contravention of the UN charter. This stab in the back by the
> Israelis of the Palestine Authority undermined the possibility of a
> Palestinian state. Did Clinton kill himself stopping this vast expansion
> of
> Israeli squatters on Palestinian land? No. Did he do anything at all
> about
> it? No.
> 2. Israel agreed to withdraw its troops from the West Bank by the end of
> 1998. It did not. Its troops are still there, guarding sometimes murderous
> or vandalizing Israeli squatters who are trying to displace the
> Palestinians
> from their homes. Did Bill Clinton kill himself to get the Israeli troops
> out of Palestine? No. Did he do anything at all about this collapse of
> Oslo
> process commitments on Israel's part? No.
> 3. Donald Neff writes that in
> "March, 1995 . . . President Clinton invoked the [UN Security Council] veto
> after all 14 other members approved a U.N. Security Council resolution
> calling on Israel to rescind a decision to expropriate 130 acres of land in
> Arab East Jerusalem.23 The Clinton administration exercised two more vetoes
> in 1997, both of them on resolutions otherwise unanimously supported by the
> 14 other Security Council members. The draft resolution was critical of
> Israel's plans to establish a new settlement at Har Homa / Jabal Abu Ghneim
> in East Jerusalem in the midst of Palestinian housing."
> So did Bill Clinton kill himself stopping Israeli large scale theft of
> Palestinian land while he was supposedly being an honest broker between
> Israel and the Palestinians? No.
> Clinton was the most partisan President for Israel in our country's
> history,
> and was anything but even-handed in his approach to the Palestinians. The
> Palestinians complained that they'd get an Israeli proposal, reject it,
> then
> get the same one from the Americans; there wasn't really any difference
> between the positions of those two.
> Clinton also defended the brutal Israeli assault on defenseless little Gaza
> in 2014, blaming it on Hamas and suggesting that they had craftily
> manipulated world media into blaming the Israelis for killing nearly 2000
> Palestinians. Mr. Clinton did not address the issue of proportionality,
> the
> key one for critics of the assault. Nor did he address the Occupation, the
> displacement of Palestinian families to Gaza by the Israelis, or the siege
> of Gaza, contravening the Geneva Conventions if 1949.
> Bill Clinton's partisanship for the Israeli side and refusal to act as an
> honest broker, refusal to stop squatter settlements, refusal to let the UN
> Security Council demand of Israel that it stop contravening international
> law, and failure to get an actual text to which Palestinian negotiators
> could assent, all these defects doomed the Oslo process and doomed the
> world
> to more turmoil coming out of this interminable conflict. It also
> encouraged the Israeli side to think they could get away with anything and
> so warped them into a Likud far-right regime and an Apartheid state.
> Bill Clinton didn't kill himself getting a Palestinian state. His
> one-sided
> approach to the negotiations ensured that there would be none. Ever.
>
>
>
>
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> No, Bill Clinton Didn't 'Kill' Himself Trying for a State of Palestine
> (Video)
> http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/no_bill_clinton_didnt_kill_himself_to_gi
> ve_the_palestinians_state_20160515/
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> optionsShare to Email
> Posted on May 15, 2016
> By Juan Cole
> This post originally ran on Truthdig contributor Juan Cole's website.
> Former President Bill Clinton on Saturday claimed "I killed myself to give
> the Palestinians a state," and maintained that he secured an agreement,
> which the Palestinians turned down. In fact, no such text was ever
> presented
> to the Palestinian side, and then Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak kept
> flaking out on commitments previously made, leaving the Palestinian
> negotiators with nothing to agree to. Negoatiator Aaron Miller later
> admitted, "There was not a formalized, written proposal that covered the
> four core issues. There was no deal on the table. None of the issues were
> explained enough in detail to make an agreement, though the Israelis made
> an
> interesting argument on Jerusalem."
> No time here to go into the paternalist and colonial language about
> "giving"
> the Palestinians a state. They are a stateless people because they are
> unrecognized; they would get a state by recognizing them as such, not
> giving
> them anything.
> Here are signs Clinton didn't put himself out that much:
> 1. From the time Clinton presided over the handshake between Israeli PM
> Yitzhak Rabin and Palestinian President Yasser Arafat in 1993 to the end of
> Clinton's term, the number of Israeli colonists on the Palestinian land
> from
> which Rabin had pledged to withdraw just about doubled. In 1993 there were
> between 95,000 and 116,000 Israeli squatters in the West Bank and Gaza. By
> 1996 there were 147,000. By 2000 there were about 200,000. These numbers do
> not include the squatters in East Jerusalem, which Israel has illegally
> annexed in contravention of the UN charter. This stab in the back by the
> Israelis of the Palestine Authority undermined the possibility of a
> Palestinian state. Did Clinton kill himself stopping this vast expansion of
> Israeli squatters on Palestinian land? No. Did he do anything at all about
> it? No.
> 2. Israel agreed to withdraw its troops from the West Bank by the end of
> 1998. It did not. Its troops are still there, guarding sometimes murderous
> or vandalizing Israeli squatters who are trying to displace the
> Palestinians
> from their homes. Did Bill Clinton kill himself to get the Israeli troops
> out of Palestine? No. Did he do anything at all about this collapse of Oslo
> process commitments on Israel's part? No.
> 3. Donald Neff writes that in
> "March, 1995 . . . President Clinton invoked the [UN Security Council] veto
> after all 14 other members approved a U.N. Security Council resolution
> calling on Israel to rescind a decision to expropriate 130 acres of land in
> Arab East Jerusalem.23 The Clinton administration exercised two more vetoes
> in 1997, both of them on resolutions otherwise unanimously supported by the
> 14 other Security Council members. The draft resolution was critical of
> Israel's plans to establish a new settlement at Har Homa / Jabal Abu Ghneim
> in East Jerusalem in the midst of Palestinian housing."
> So did Bill Clinton kill himself stopping Israeli large scale theft of
> Palestinian land while he was supposedly being an honest broker between
> Israel and the Palestinians? No.
> Clinton was the most partisan President for Israel in our country's
> history,
> and was anything but even-handed in his approach to the Palestinians. The
> Palestinians complained that they'd get an Israeli proposal, reject it,
> then
> get the same one from the Americans; there wasn't really any difference
> between the positions of those two.
> Clinton also defended the brutal Israeli assault on defenseless little Gaza
> in 2014, blaming it on Hamas and suggesting that they had craftily
> manipulated world media into blaming the Israelis for killing nearly 2000
> Palestinians. Mr. Clinton did not address the issue of proportionality, the
> key one for critics of the assault. Nor did he address the Occupation, the
> displacement of Palestinian families to Gaza by the Israelis, or the siege
> of Gaza, contravening the Geneva Conventions if 1949.
> Bill Clinton's partisanship for the Israeli side and refusal to act as an
> honest broker, refusal to stop squatter settlements, refusal to let the UN
> Security Council demand of Israel that it stop contravening international
> law, and failure to get an actual text to which Palestinian negotiators
> could assent, all these defects doomed the Oslo process and doomed the
> world
> to more turmoil coming out of this interminable conflict. It also
> encouraged
> the Israeli side to think they could get away with anything and so warped
> them into a Likud far-right regime and an Apartheid state.
> Bill Clinton didn't kill himself getting a Palestinian state. His one-sided
> approach to the negotiations ensured that there would be none. Ever.
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