Re: [acb-chat] [ACB-chat] Run Mrs. Clinton in 20

To All and sundry,
Unless we all agree that it is time to take down all artificial
borders and remove all of the world's wealth, and divide it among all
of Planet Earth's Citizens, and until we declare that there is dignity
in all labor, and until we treat one another with respect, regardless
of those artificial barriers such as race, color, sexual preference
and religion...or lack thereof, until that time we will continue to
live uncertain, dangerous lives.

arl Jarvis




On 1/28/17, Frank Ventura via acb-chat <acb-chat@acblists.org> wrote:
> Cliff, I can't tell you to any degree of precision what percentage of trump
> voters around here are the jet set. However, I can tell you that they
> indulge in idol worship and believe their support of Trump will one day lead
> to being his fiscal equal.
> Frank
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Clifford [mailto:clifford@tds.net]
> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 1:30 PM
> To: Frank Ventura <frank.ventura@littlebreezes.com>
> Subject: RE: [acb-chat] Run Mrs. Clinton in 20
>
> Dear Frank:
> How many conservatives are on your friend's list or with whom you
> regularly communicate? The folks who elected President Trump are not the
> jet set, but the folks who are or want to be in that middle class. In this
> area of Tennessee, eighty percent voted for Trump, and I can guarantee you
> that eighty percent of our population are not the "country club set".
>
> Yours Truly,
>
> Clifford Wilson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frank Ventura [mailto:frank.ventura@littlebreezes.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 11:01 PM
> To: Clifford <clifford@tds.net>
> Subject: RE: [acb-chat] Run Mrs. Clinton in 20
>
> Clifford, if you are of the opinion that a healthy working class is a
> positive then I conjecture that you may not be a conservative in the sense
> of the word as it has been used in the post Reagan era.
> Frank
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Clifford [mailto:clifford@tds.net]
> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 7:57 PM
> To: 'General discussion list for ACB members and friends where a wide range
> of topics from blindness to politics, issues of the day or whatever comes to
> mind are welcome. This is a free form discussion list.'
> <acb-chat@acblists.org>
> Cc: Frank Ventura <frank.ventura@littlebreezes.com>
> Subject: RE: [acb-chat] Run Mrs. Clinton in 20
>
> Dear Frank:
> I disagree with your supposition here. I am of the opinion that a healthy,
> growing, and prosperous middle class is most desirable and the road to a
> robust economy. Our present economy is only creeping along because the
> federal government is printing billions and increasing our debt
> astronomically. If the debt increase in the last eight years was removed
> from our economy, we would be in a drastic recession if not worse.
> The unemployment figures do not tell the big picture, as many workers have
> simply given up looking, and they are not counted in the reports. Those who
> do have jobs are working for less than before in many cases.
> Frank, there may be some fat cats that wish for a situation where the
> masses are desperate for work and willing to work for extremely low wages,
> but I don't know any such individuals and I believe such notions are rare,
> other in the minds of liberals.
>
> Yours Truly,
>
> Clifford Wilson
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frank Ventura via acb-chat [mailto:acb-chat@acblists.org]
> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 9:00 PM
> To: General discussion list for ACB members and friends where a wide range
> of topics from blindness to politics, issues of the day or whatever comes to
> mind are welcome. This is a free form discussion list.
> <acb-chat@acblists.org>
> Cc: Frank Ventura <frank.ventura@littlebreezes.com>
> Subject: Re: [acb-chat] Run Mrs. Clinton in 20
>
> Conservatives won't be happy until every working class job is outsourced and
> the working class is destroyed.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Heim via acb-chat [mailto:acb-chat@acblists.org]
> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 1:09 PM
> To: issues of the day or whatever comes to mind are 'welcome.' This is a
> free form discussion 'list. <acb-chat@acblists.org>
> Cc: John Heim <john@johnheim.com>
> Subject: Re: [acb-chat] Run Mrs. Clinton in 20
>
> conservatives simply refuse to face reality. The fact is that we alredy have
> a robust economy. The country is way, way better off than it was when
> President Obama took office. Electing Trump is the equivalent of someone
> with a toothache hiring a witch doctor to do brain surgery on them. The
> problem wasn't that bad in the first place, the person you hired is totally
> incompetant, and their solution has nothing to do with the actual problem.
> On 01/26/2017 10:58 AM, Clifford Wilson via acb-chat wrote:
>> Dear Carl:
>> It is good to note your return to this list serve. It seems to me
>> that the great outcry from a few subscribers has come about as a
>> result of the election between Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Trump, and it
>> occurred to me that the unhappy Clinton supporters might wish to try
>> once again.
>> I am hopeful that this country will be able to get out of the ruit
>> that has been brought about by the leaders of both major parties for
>> too many years. In order for the country to right itself, it appears
>> to me that we will have to have a robust ecconomy, which in my opinion
>> means a growing middle class, not a disappearing one as we have seen
>> in the last years.
>> President Trump may not turn out to be the answer, but I am quite
>> sure that the other alternatives were not heading in a direction that
>> would get us there.
>> Bob and I have figured out some of the tax reforms lllneede, but I
>> am not holding my breath until they have been implimented.
>> Have you been wrestling any bears of late? I suppose most of them
>> hybernate in January in your part of the country?
>> Take care my friend and good to have you back.
>>
>> Yours Truly,
>>
>> Clifford Wilsond
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Carl Jarvis via acb-chat
>> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 10:41 AM
>> To: General discussion list for ACB members and friends where a wide
>> range of topics from blindness to politics, issues of the day or
>> whatever comes to mind are welcome. This is a free form discussion list.
>> Cc: Carl Jarvis
>> Subject: Re: [acb-chat] Run Mrs. Clinton in 20
>>
>> Well Clifford, rebuilding the Hillary Clinton for President Machine
>> again reminds me of the definition of Crazy, doing the same thing over
>> and over while expecting different results.
>> But of course, hoping for a better world each time we vote in a new
>> Leader fits that definition, too. Maybe I can understand to a degree,
>> the feelings of those who look forward to the Second Coming.
>> Carl Jarvis
>> PS. Of course a Second Coming might need to be followed by a Third
>> Coming...and a Fourth...which brings us back to the definition of
>> Crazy...
>> CJ
>>
>>
>> On 1/26/17, Clifford via acb-chat <acb-chat@acblists.org> wrote:
>>> Dear John and others who wish to keep complaining about the election:
>>>
>>> This hillbilly's suggestion is to start working now
>>> to help choose Mrs. Clinton as the torch bearer for the democrats in
>>> 2020. I am quite sure she could carry the same states she did last
>>> Fall, and that could mean more votes than are received by any other
>>> candidate in the rest of the country. Being from Tennessee, I am a
>>> supporter of the compromise fashioned by our founding fathers when
>>> they came up with the bicameral legislature and the electoral
>>> college.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Clifford Wilson
>>>
>>>
>>>
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