Re: [blind-democracy] Re: The Real Meaning of Trump

Absolutely. You are right Miriam, it is complex. Far greater than
any of us can express in a few email posts. Who we are, who rules our
government, where we came from and where we are headed, should be
under constant discussion from Preschool until Death do us Part.
And yes, beyond doubt, there are huge differences in who takes up the
reigns of government.
But what I am pointing out, in my opinion, is that we, the
Masses...the Working Class Americans, are on the outside of the
contests for control. We certainly can impact what that government
does...to a greater or lesser degree, but we are not considered as
part of the American Oligarchy. And it is the Oligarchy that is
manipulating events and conditions which keep it protected at all
costs. I personally think that the United States of America,
portrayed as a nation of the People, by the People and for the People,
a democracy within a Republic, is a myth that was fed to the Colonists
in order to recruit their support...and their bodies, in the fight
between the Landed Gentry and the British Crown.
Of course this dream of an enlightened people is never going to be
allowed by the Oligarchy. They control what the Educators will
teach. And an open examination of the nation's history is not on
their list. So we continue passing Fairy Tales and Mythology along to
our children. George Washington and the chopping of the apple tree,
Honest Abe, Old Hickory, the freeing of the slaves, the taking care of
our Indian brothers and sisters by "giving" them Lands of their own,
our spreading of Peace and democracy around the world, our great
benevolent Industrialists. Myths, all Fairy Tales. We "give" the
vote to our woman folk, while we turn around and own what they may do
with their bodies. Do we pass laws preventing Men from having
vasectomies? We "free" our slaves and build laws to prevent them from
sharing our American Dream. And wen they begin to rise up, we build
prisons and private concentration camps to house them when they
"break" our laws.
Which causes me to wonder, would Working Class Blacks see much
difference between the Reagan administration and the Obama one? What
about share croppers? Can they see that life is better under George
Bush or Jimmy Carter?
Sure, it's easy for me to give Obama a passing grade, compared to
those who went before him, but that might be due to my having not lost
my privilege of living here, or the theft of my home, or the loss of a
job because I have no Green Card, or being sent back to a country that
I never really knew, and separated from my wife and children. Even
though I will surely be slowly drained of my hard earned possessions,
I will most likely die before I am forced to sleep in an open field.
But the Oligarchy is controlled by Greed. Greed will, like the cancer
that it is, gobble up all in sight until there is nothing more to
devour. Greed will then die. But only after the last Humans have
gone.
So, the more I write, the more I see the Oligarchy...the American
Corporate Empire as one face. It is a face that can seem to be many
things, but in the end, we, the Masses, are never going to be accepted
into its Posh World.

Carl Jarvis

On 1/10/17, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@optonline.net> wrote:
> Carl,
>
> I doubt that the majority of professional politicians and the majority of
> corporate CEO's and bankers, think they can work comfortably with Trump.
> He's not a normal person. Perhaps they'll accommodate if he has enough
> power
> behind him, but this is not a normal situation. Additionally, although
> there
> are power elites who have tremendous influence, there are also differences
> among our Presidents and among the people who are in each of their
> administrations. The complexities are hidden when you talk as if that
> formula in which the Left believes so fervently, the formula which says
> that
> there's really no difference who wins the presidency because the ruling
> class will rule anyway. The ruling class isn't monolithic. There's a
> difference between the Koch brothers and George Soros. We can all see only
> bits and pieces of the puzzle.
>
> Miriam
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blind-democracy-bounce@freelists.org
> [mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Carl Jarvis
> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 10:17 AM
> To: blind-democracy@freelists.org
> Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: The Real Meaning of Trump
>
> Well Bob, I agree that Donald Trump is not my president, but probably not
> with as much fervor as you.
> Because I believe that Donald Trump is the candidate of choice by the
> Oligarchy, and all those who made the final cut in the Presidential Race
> were representing the needs of the Oligarchy, including Bernie Sanders,
> then
> I was bound to be outraged regardless of the winner.
> Even Bernie Sanders, who came closest to fighting for the Working Class,
> had
> dirty hands and a few skeletons in his attic closet.
> Bernie did throw a good scare into the Establishment, and they had to
> resort
> to dirty tricks to freeze him out.
> Trump, despite the railing of the Media and many old line Republican
> politicians, is a man the Empire can work with. In part, it is because
> regardless of his claims otherwise, Trump is a long time member in good
> standing with the Ruling Class.
> Just look at the coverage he received during the "Race". There's an old
> adage that goes, "There's no such thing as bad publicity". And Trump
> proved
> it beyond a doubt. Some folks voted for him because they were sick of
> being
> trick or treated by the Obama administration, some voted for him because
> they really believed all the promises, and some voted for him because they
> were drawn to this Bad Boy Mouthy, shoot from the hip, bigger than life
> Media Creation.
> But to the Oligarchy, it doesn't matter why folks voted for Trump.
> With the appointments he is sending forward, it will be open season on the
> treasury and the Working Class.
> No, Donald Trump isn't my president, either. But he is president of the
> USA
> Corporate Empire, and as such, we will need to suffer under his time in
> office.
>
> Carl Jarvis
>
>
>
> On 1/9/17, Bob Hachey <bhachey@verizon.net> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> AS I keep thinking about how Trump won the presidency, I keep
>> wondering how it is that a greedy, spoiled vicious child gets to be
>> the most powerful man in the world for the next four years or until he
>> is impeached. During the campaign, he got away with way more than any
> other president before him.
>>
>> Yesterday, Donna saw this on FaceBook, a most apt description of Trump:
>>
>> T, Trashy
>>
>> R, Racist
>>
>> U, Unqualified
>>
>> M, Misogynist
>>
>> P, pig.
>>
>>
>>
>> I always try to give the winner of presidential elections at least a
>> small chance to govern, but based upon his appointments, tweets and
>> other sordid actions, he deserves no chance at all.
>>
>> I wish for you in the next four years pain, misery and strife at all
>> levels.
>> Hey there, Donald! You are not my fuckin president!
>>
>> Bob Hachey
>>
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