Re: [blind-democracy] Re: More Misleading Russia-gate Propaganda

Considering that we working class(middle) have no dog in this fight,
Senator Murray is about as good as we're going to get. She and our
Junior Senator Maria Cantwell, are the most "Left leaning" candidates
the Two Headed Monster will allow to be serious contenders.
Even Saint Sanders, who was blocked, is about in the same closet as
Cantwell and Murray. And if the congress became filled with similar
politicians, and the billionaires were still running the Empire, then
we would be right back where we were under Carter, Clinton and Obama.
The American People simply have no power in this Federal Government.
The fact is that as hard as we try to believe that there ever were
"good old days" for the working class, there never were. Even though
we(the American People) pushed through some legislation that gave
temporary relief, we never had our hand on the reigns of government.
That control has always belonged to the Oligarchy, the White Land
Owners and their offspring. We, the working class, are tolerated
because someone has to do the dirty work. Digging the ditches,
building the roads, growing and harvesting the crops, dying for the
security of the Oligarchy, guarding the mansions and caring for the
Master's families. Until robots can handle all of these functions, we
will be kept around. But mark my words, if Wall street and Madison
Avenue could replace us with obedient robots, we'd be allowed to
starve to death, just as millions of "Third World" people are now
doing.
While I hear the same comments that you are hearing, since most of us
live in Kansas-like mind sets, there is still a growing rumble
beginning in the distance. Maybe it comes from California, maybe from
South Dakota, but it is growing. What will the folks in Texas do when
they find that the Billionaires they elected to protect them, have no
time or money to give? Just as sure as the American Empire's military
approach to keeping the world peace is actually building huge hatred
for the USA, the billionaires indifference to keeping their campaign
promises is building resentment and disillusionment. That snow ball
has been rolling downhill for some time, growing in size and picking
up speed. I don't pay much attention to the addle brains who have
been raised on the constant propaganda of the Empire. Of course they
will repeat all that they think they know. But when it is their house
that never gets repaired, their crops that rot under water, their jobs
that get shut down, their children who begin hacking and choking from
the "pretty safe" air spewing from the crippled chemical plants, there
will be all Hell to pay. The Oligarchy may be able to stall the
warnings of the climate changers, but they will find that they cannot
stop that rolling snow ball of anger which they denied existed. One
fine day president Donald Trump will look out at the masses of people
gathering before the front door to the White House and say, "Look at
all my loyal subjects, gathering to praise and admire me", and then
the crowd brings out the battering rams...

Carl Jarvis


On 9/1/17, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@optonline.net> wrote:
> If it were only that simple. Your senator sent out that email because she's
> a Democrat and the Republicans are in power. But when a Democratic
> administration is in power and does harmful things, Democratic senators
> don't send out informative emails. The Obama administration favored charter
> schools and used federal policy to encourage them. As a matter of fact,
> Obama was in favor of them when he was still a state senator in Illinois,
> and the reason he gave was, "students should have a choice". But Obama was a
> very ambitious guy back when he was a state senator. He was running against
> Bobby Rush for the US House of Representatives and he desperately needed
> money for that campaign because he wasn't doing well. Governor Cuomo of the
> State of New York gets a lot of money from Wall Street donors and he has
> been pushing charter schools in New York for years. True, the Democrats
> don't sound as stupid about education as DeVoes does, and they're not
> pushing vouchers for private religious schools, but charter schools are what
> everyone pushes for poor black children.
>
> Miriam.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blind-democracy-bounce@freelists.org
> [mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Carl Jarvis
> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 9:51 PM
> To: blind-democracy@freelists.org
> Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: More Misleading Russia-gate Propaganda
>
> Bob and All who wonder what can be done:
> Here is an email message from Washington state's senior senator, Patty
> Murray. Sometimes it's important to just sound off...preferably with solid
> facts.
> Carl Jarvis
> ********
>
> Carl --
>
> Believe it or not, it's almost September -- back to school time once again.
>
> And while students, teachers, and parents probably aren't worried about
> report cards just yet, we thought someone deserved a report card on her
> performance so far: Education Secretary Betsy DeVos.
>
> It's been seven months since she was confirmed (after the closest vote in
> history for a cabinet secretary), and we know she had big plans for
> America's schools -- so before we head into the new school year, let's look
> at where we stand.
> Share this graphic on Facebook with your friends and family today and show
> them how Betsy DeVos is failing parents, students, and teachers across the
> country.
>
> Share on Facebook!
>
> So we can see that even though Secretary DeVos took on a full course load in
> her first semester as Education Secretary, it seems she might not be up for
> the task. But because a change in major isn't really something she's looking
> for right now, we think she's owed an explanation of her failing grades.
>
> list of 5 items
> • Education Budgeting 101: Secretary DeVos' proposed education budget
> confirms her extreme ideological commitment to public school privatization
> -- and it would come at the expense of millions of students around the
> country, from preschool to college and beyond. Her proposed budget would
> weaken communities by eliminating funding for afterschool programs, grant
> aid for struggling college students and teacher and principal training
> programs, and so much more.
> First Semester Grade: F.
> • Education Policy 101: Confusion is the name of the game with Secretary
> DeVos and has been since her confirmation hearing -- where she suggested
> that guns should be allowed in schools to protect students from things like,
> grizzly bears. It seems like she's not entirely sure how to implement the
> Every Student Succeeds Act (ESSA), and she's sending mixed signals to local
> superintendents and state education leaders. First Semester Grade: F.
> • Civil Rights 101: Secretary DeVos has made it clear through her actions
> that she isn't committed to do everything she can to protect all students'
> safety and civil rights. From her proposed cuts to the Office for Civil
> Rights, to rolling back Title IX protections intended to protect students
> from sexual assault, to overturning the rule protecting transgender
> students, and so much more -- Secretary DeVos has moved the Department of
> Education away from the critical goal of promoting civil rights and student
> safety. First Semester Grade: F.
> • Writing 101: Given how little she answered in her hearing, many of us have
> been sending her letters asking some tough questions about what she is doing
> and how she is doing it. But the vast majority of our letters go unanswered!
> Either Secretary DeVos doesn't have the answers, or she just doesn't want to
> tell us about them in writing. First Semester Grade: Incomplete.
> • Principles of Business Management: You would think that even though
> Secretary DeVos has no specific education experience of her own, she might
> bring some business best practices to the table -- like hiring the right
> folks and staffing up quickly. Wrong: She's still the only Department of
> Education top-level employee confirmed by the Senate, and she only has two
> other nominees waiting for confirmation. First Semester Grade: F.
> list end
>
> So many of us are teachers, parents, and students ourselves, and we know how
> difficult it can be to make up for a bad first semester. Only time will tell
> what's next for Secretary DeVos, but for the sake of our students -- I hope
> she turns it around.
>
> Share this graphic today with your friends and family on Facebook, and let
> them know that Education Secretary Betsy DeVos is failing students,
> teachers, and families.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Team Patty
>
> SHARE »
>
>
> This email was sent to
>
>
>
> On 8/31/17, Bob Hachey <bhachey@verizon.net> wrote:
>> Well, this really stinks in a way because Trump will be able to cry
>> fake news and this time, it won't be a complete lie.
>> Then again, what else should we expect from the Wall Stream media?
>> By the way, I am a regular listener to the Rachel Madow show and she
>> is also guilty of over-emphasizing anything that has to do with Trump and
>> Russia.
>> IT's way past time that all media sources pay less attention to the
>> Russia noise and more attention to what Trump and the evil, greedy
>> bastards in his cabinet are doing to fatten their pockets at the expense
>> of the rest of us.
>>
>> Bob Hachey
>> Bob Hachey
>> Bob Hachey
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>

Re: [blind-democracy] Re: More Misleading Russia-gate Propaganda

Election after election American citizens have shuffled off to the
polls, picking one or the other of the two Political Parties offerings
in our vaunted "Free Choice", carefully regulated election System.
And election after election Americans are greeted with pretty much the
"same old, same old", especially as it effects their daily grind.
During political campaigns promises are a dime a dozen, floating like
butterflies among the television and radio networks, telling voters of
the wonders awaiting them. And following election results? Business
as usual. Old politicians, safe for another span of years, or new
ones settling in, rolling up their sleeves and going about the task of
pleasing their Masters.
And one fine day the People simply got fed up with it all. They
smirked, they held their noses, they closed their eyes and ears, they
said, "What the Hell, it don't matter anyway", and they voted for the
"Jester". Mister Reality TV. Master of deception. skilled
manipulator who turns Fiction into Fact and Fact into Fiction. The
man who stands before his mirror and asks, "Who's the Fairest of them
all?"
And as he enters the second half of his first year in office, he is
creating change, if you call opening the veins of the Working Class
and allowing the dollars to freely flow upward into the coffers of the
bloated rich, change.
And all the while, the Jester moves about the Land seemingly immune to
those laws governing ordinary citizens. The Jester makes the Wizard
of Oz appear to be a Country Bumpkin. And unlike Nero, he is not
fiddling around while he tears down the lofty American Empire. For
that is what is happening. The Billionaire Club, those CEO's of the
giant international corporations, are drooling as they jockey to get
their greedy fingers on everything. American voters have turned the
Jester loose in the Land, and there is no Batman and Robin to save the
nation.
For the first time in our nation's drive to conquer the Land, from sea
to shining sea, for the first time the working class is not needed.
We are as disposable as the many cats and dogs we turn out into our
streets, as useless as the children we spawn and neglect until they,
too run to the streets. We are nothing to the fat corporations, aside
from serving as cannon fodder in the Corporation's Eternal War on
Everybody.
But as history shows, the day of the American Empire is coming to a
close. The People, tricked over and over, have been deceived to the
point that they have no recourse other than to rise up and be done
with their Masters. Why not? When you have watched all of your
efforts to play the game according to the Rules of the Ruling Class,
only to find out that those Rules are theirs, not ours, then we turn
on our self serving, greed driven Wealthy, shouting that we no longer
look to them for solutions to our needs. And we set them aside and
take what we can from their ill gotten wealth. And the cycle starts
all over again. Years from now, if we still exist, folks will wonder
how it was that such a Golden Opportunity was missed. With such power
in numbers, why didn't the Masses set up a new government that really
was a government of the people, instead of allowing a new Ruling Class
to set up housekeeping, and begin the same old process all over.
There are many little components that go into creating conditions for
a mass upheaval. But if there is no plan, no direction, no
understanding of what is happening, then we will simply be set up to
repeat history. Over and over, and over again.

Carl Jarvis




On 8/30/17, Miriam Vieni <`miriamvieni@optonline.net> wrote:
> I suppose that what you should be concerned about is a political system that
> doesn't impeach Trump for crimes that he has clearly committed, (and I've
> seen at least 10 of them clearly listed), and instead, chooses to mislead
> the public with innuendos about Russian interference with his election.
>
> Miriam
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blind-democracy-bounce@freelists.org
> [mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Carl Jarvis
> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 12:42 AM
> To: blind-democracy@freelists.org
> Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: More Misleading Russia-gate Propaganda
>
> Let me see, should I be more concerned with the great influence of Putin in
> America's politics? or should I be more concerned with Donald Trump and his
> billionaire Cabinet? Hmm...
>
> Carl Jarvis
>
>
> On 8/29/17, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@optonline.net> wrote:
>> Consortiumnews
>>
>> Independent Investigative Journalism Since 1995
>>
>> More Misleading Russia-gate Propaganda
>>
>> August 29, 2017
>>
>> Exclusive: The U.S. mainstream media is touting a big break in
>> Russia-gate, emails showing an effort by Donald Trump's associates to
>> construct a building in Moscow. But the evidence actually undercuts the
>> "scandal,"
>> reports Robert Parry.
>>
>> By Robert Parry
>>
>> There is an inherent danger of news organizations getting infected by
>> "confirmation bias" when they want something to be true so badly that
>> even if the evidence goes in the opposite direction they twist the
>> revelation to fit their narrative. Such is how The Washington Post,
>> The New York Times and their followers in the mainstream media are
>> reacting to newly released emails that actually show Donald Trump's
>> team having little or no influence in Moscow.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> President Trump discusses his meeting with Russian President Vladimir
>> Putin at G-20 summit in Hamburg, Germany, on July 7, 2017. (Screenshot
>> from
>> Whitehouse.gov)
>>
>> On Tuesday, for instance, the Times published a front-page article
>> designed to advance the Russia-gate narrative, stating: "A business
>> associate of President Trump promised in 2015 to engineer a real
>> estate deal with the aid of the president of Russia, Vladimir V.
>> Putin, that he said would help Mr.
>> Trump win the presidency."
>>
>> Wow, that sounds pretty devastating! The Times is finally tying
>> together the loose and scattered threads of the
>> Russia-influencing-the-U.S.-election
>> story. Here you have a supposed business deal in which Putin was to
>> help Trump both make money and get elected. That is surely how a
>> casual reader or a Russia-gate true believer would read it - and was
>> meant to read it. But the lede is misleading.
>>
>> The reality, as you would find out if you read further into the story,
>> is that the boast from Felix Sater that somehow the construction of a
>> Trump Tower in Moscow would demonstrate Trump's international business
>> prowess and thus help his election was meaningless. What the incident
>> really shows is that the Trump organization had little or no pull in
>> Russia as Putin's government apparently didn't lift a finger to
>> salvage this stillborn building project.
>>
>> But highlighting that reality would not serve the Times' endless
>> promotion of Russia-gate. So, this counter-evidence gets buried deep
>> in the story, after a reprise of the "scandal" and the Times hyping
>> the significance of Sater's emails from 2015 and early 2016. For good
>> measure, the Times includes a brief and dishonest summary of the Ukraine
>> crisis.
>>
>> The Times reported: "Mr. Sater, a Russian immigrant, said he had lined
>> up financing for the Trump Tower deal with VTB Bank, a Russian bank
>> that was under American sanctions for involvement in Moscow's efforts
>> to undermine democracy in Ukraine. In another email, Mr. Sater
>> envisioned a ribbon-cutting ceremony in Moscow. 'I will get Putin on
>> this program and we will get Donald elected,' Mr. Sater wrote."
>>
>> But the idea that Russia acted "to undermine democracy in Ukraine" is
>> another example of the Times' descent into outright propaganda. The
>> reality is that the U.S. government supported - and indeed encouraged
>> - a coup on Feb. 22, 2014, that overthrew the democratically elected
>> Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych even after he offered to move up
>> scheduled elections so he could be voted out of office through a
>> democratic process.
>>
>> After Yanukovych's violent ouster and after the coup regime dispatched
>> military forces to crush resistance among anti-coup, mostly ethnic
>> Russian Ukrainians in the east, Russia provided help to prevent their
>> destruction from an assault spearheaded by neo-Nazis and other extreme
>> Ukrainian nationalists. But that reality would not fit the Times'
>> preferred Ukraine narrative, so it gets summarized as Moscow trying
>> "to undermine democracy in Ukraine."
>>
>> Empty Boasts
>>
>> However, leaving aside the Times' propagandistic approach to Ukraine,
>> there is this more immediate point about Russia-gate: none of Sater's
>> boastful claims proved true and this incident really underscored the
>> lack of useful connections between Trump's people and the Kremlin. One
>> of Trump's lawyers, Michael Cohen, even used a general press email
>> address in a plea for assistance from Putin's personal spokesman.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The New York Times' connect-the-dots graphic showing the Kremlin
>> sitting atop the White House.
>>
>> Deeper in the story, the Times admits these inconvenient facts: "There
>> is no evidence in the emails that Mr. Sater delivered on his promises,
>> and one email suggests that Mr. Sater overstated his Russian ties. In
>> January 2016, Mr. Cohen wrote to Mr. Putin's spokesman, Dmitri S.
>> Peskov, asking for help restarting the Trump Tower project, which had
>> stalled. But Mr. Sater did not appear to have Mr. Peskov's direct
>> email, and instead wrote to a general inbox for press inquiries."
>>
>> The Times added: "The project never got government permits or
>> financing, and died weeks later. . The emails obtained by The Times
>> make no mention of Russian efforts to damage Hillary Clinton's
>> campaign or the hacking of Democrats' emails."
>>
>> In other words, the Russia-gate narrative - that somehow Putin foresaw
>> Trump's election (although almost no one else did) and sought to curry
>> favor with the future U.S. president by lining Trump's pockets with
>> lucrative real estate deals while doing whatever he could to help
>> Trump win - is knocked down by these new disclosures, not supported by
>> them.
>>
>> Instead of clearing the way for Trump to construct the building and
>> thus - in Sater's view - boost Trump's election chances, Putin and his
>> government wouldn't even approve permits or assist in the financing.
>>
>> And, this failed building project was not the first Trump proposal in
>> Russia to fall apart. A couple of years earlier, a Moscow hotel plan
>> died apparently because Trump would not - or could not - put up
>> adequate financing for his share, overvaluing the magic of the Trump
>> brand. But one would think that if the Kremlin were grooming Trump to
>> be its Manchurian candidate and take over the U.S. government, money
>> would have been no obstacle.
>>
>> Along the same lines, there's the relative pittance that RT paid Gen.
>> Michael Flynn to speak at the TV network's tenth anniversary in Moscow
>> in December 2015. The amount totaled $45,386 with Flynn netting
>> $33,750 after his speakers' bureau took its cut. Democrats and the
>> U.S. mainstream media treated this fact as important evidence of
>> Russia buying influence in the Trump campaign and White House, since
>> Flynn was both a campaign adviser and briefly national security adviser.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Green Party leader Jill Stein and retired Lt. General Michael Flynn
>> attending a dinner marking the RT network's 10-year anniversary in
>> Moscow, December 2015, sitting at the same table as Russian President
>> Vladimir Putin.
>>
>> But the actual evidence suggests something quite different. Besides
>> Flynn's relatively modest speaking fee, it turned out that RT
>> negotiated Flynn's rate downward, a fact that The Washington Post
>> buried deep inside an article on Flynn's Russia-connected payments.
>> The Post wrote, "RT balked at paying Flynn's original asking price.
>> 'Sorry it took us longer to get back to you but the problem is that
>> the speaking fee is a bit too high and exceeds our budget at the
>> moment,' Alina Mikhaleva, RT's head of marketing, wrote a Flynn
>> associate about a month before the event."
>>
>> Yet, if Putin were splurging to induce Americans near Trump to betray
>> their country, it makes no sense that Putin's supposed flunkies at RT
>> would be quibbling with Flynn over a relatively modest speaking fee;
>> they'd be falling over themselves to pay him more.
>>
>> So, what the evidence really indicates is that Putin, like almost
>> everybody else in the world, didn't anticipate Trump's ascendance to
>> the White House, at least not in the time frame of these events - and
>> thus was doing nothing to buy influence with his entourage or boost
>> his election chances by helping him construct a glittering Trump Tower
>> in Moscow.
>>
>> But that recognition of reality would undermine the much beloved story
>> of Putin-Trump collusion, so the key facts and the clear logic are
>> downplayed or ignored - all the better to deceive Americans who are
>> dependent on the Times, the Post and the mainstream media.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

Join us to get this IQ-Lowering Pesticide out of your food!

The links in this article may not work, since I simply copied it and
pasted. But the warning is very clear. We working class Americans
are losing one protection after another. We now know that Trump's
boast that he is "returning America to her Greatness", means he is
taking us back to the Glory Days when Capitalism ruled with little
interference from Government.
Now I'm wondering about his claim to "drain the swamp". Is working
class America the swamp he means? Does Trump and his Merry Band of
Billionaires need us? They now have more and more robots doing the
work we once did, along with the really cheap labor from Third World
countries...like we're becoming.
Carl Jarvis
*******

Don't Let Trump Poison America's children and farmworkers
Join us to get this IQ-Lowering Pesticide out of your food!

Don't let Trump turn the EPA into a Polluter's Paradise – take a stand
today - If this pesticide can lower a child's IQ it has NO Business
being sprayed
on our food! – Every voice counts! >>

Dear Carl,

In a stunning blow to science, democracy and human health, the Trump
administration has overruled the Environmental Protection Agency's
(EPA) own career
scientists and stubbornly refused to ban the toxic pesticide
chlorpyrifos, which has been linked to dangerous impacts on young
children's brains — including
higher rates of ADHD and autism and most shockingly lowered IQs for
children whose mothers are exposed to the pesticide during pregnancy.

The science behind chlorpyrifos damage to young children's brains is
so conclusive that career EPA scientists actually went so far as
recommending the
pesticide be completely BANNED from agricultural use, but Trump's EPA
administrator Scott Pruitt personally reversed this decision.

According to multiple media reports, Pruitt's decision came after a
brief meeting with the CEO of Dow Chemical and an intense push by
agribusiness lobbyists
who advised Trump's political appointees at the EPA to ignore the
multiple health studies that show the pesticide chlorpyrifos can harm
children's brains.

Fortunately, the Senate is now stepping up to protect people and the
planet from this dangerous synthetic pesticide and a handful of
Senators just introduced
a bill that would ban this toxic pesticide for good called the
"Protect Children, Farmers and Farmworkers from Nerve Agent Pesticides
Act of 2017."

Stop the use of this dangerous pesticide from harming America's
children — Tell your Senators to pass Senate Bill 1624 to Protect
Children, Farmers and
Farmworkers from Dangerous Pesticides — Every voice counts!

https://action.fooddemocracynow.org/sign/dont_let_Trump_poison_children_and_Farmerworkers/?t=6&akid=1990%2E526696%2EG9r8HF

Trump and Pruitt Plan to Turn the EPA and America into a Polluter's Paradise.

The pesticide chlorpyrifos, largely manufactured Dow Chemical, is
classified as a neurotoxin by the Center for Disease Control and is a
known endocrine
disruptor that interferes with important developmental human hormones.
Strong scientific evidence shows that it can lower IQs and increase
the risk of
autism in young children. Chlorpyrifos is sprayed on corn and soybeans
in the Midwest and fruit and vegetable crops in the Southeast,
Washington, and California.

Make no doubt about it, Pruitt's decision to unilaterally overrule EPA
career scientists was no accident.

What makes this decision so egregious is that Trump and Pruitt
intentionally chose to put Dow Chemical's polluter profits over the
health and well being
of America's children and farm workers. Pruitt and President Trump
even went so far as ignoring the advice of the American Academy of
Pediatrics, which
represents more than 66,000 pediatricians and pediatric surgeons, who
were "deeply alarmed" by the EPAs decision.

Instead, the Trump administration accepted the corporate talking
points from the CEOs of CropLife America, the Fertilizer Institute,
and the American Soybean
Association, which are all run by the likes of Dow Chemical, DuPont
and Monsanto.

The complicity is so blatant that in February, while signing an
executive order that mandated the rolling back of government
regulations, Trump handed
the pen he used to Dow Chemical's CEO Andrew Liveris, who stood next
to him during the ceremony.

It should come as no surprise that Dow Chemical famously wrote a $1
million check to help underwrite Trump's inauguration, after which
Trump named Dow
Chemical's CEO to head his now disbanded "American Manufacturing Council".

In an effort to combat this blatant collusion with the pesticide
industry, Senator Tom Udall (New Mexico) has introduced a new bill in
the Senate, known
as Senate Bill 1624 or the Protect Children, Farmers and Farmworkers
from Nerve Agent Pesticides Act of 2017, and they need our help to
protect America's
children and farm workers.

Don't let Trump turn the EPA into a Polluter's Paradise – take a stand
today to help ban this dangerous brain-damaging pesticide. If this
pesticide can
lower a child's IQ it has NO Business being sprayed on our food! –
Every voice counts!

http://action.fooddemocracynow.org/sign/dont_let_Trump_poison_children_and_Farmerworkers/?t=9&akid=1990%2E526696%2EG9r8HF

It's time to take a stand for America's children, farmer workers and
the environment! Trump and his corporate cronies have already signaled
their plans
to roll back landmark environmental and human health protections by
gutting clean water rules, limiting the endangered species act and
carving up and selling
off national public parks to corporate polluters. We can't let them
get away with this.
Take action today to put an end to the corruption of our democracy and
the poisoning of our food and environment!

Remember, democracy is like muscle, if you don't use it you lose it.

Thanks for participating in food democracy,

Dave Murphy
Founder / Executive Director
Food Democracy Now!

Sources:

1. "EPA chief met with Dow Chemical CEO before deciding not to ban
toxic pesticide", Los Angeles Times, June 30, 2017.
http://action.fooddemocracynow.org/go/2113?t=12&akid=1990%2E526696%2EG9r8HF

2. "That EPA push to ban a pesticide that harms babies' brains?
Dropped after Trump EPA chief Pruitt met with Dow CEO", BoingBoing,
June 28, 2017.
https://action.fooddemocracynow.org/go/2114?t=14&akid=1990%2E526696%2EG9r8HF

3. "Blythe Danner: How Scott Pruitt Is Putting Our Kids and
Grandchildren in Danger", Time, Aug 15, 2017.
http://action.fooddemocracynow.org/go/2115?t=16&akid=1990%2E526696%2EG9r8HF

4. "
EPA Welcomed Industry Feedback Before Reversing Pesticide Ban,
Ignoring Health Concerns
", The Intercept, August 18, 2017.
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5. "UPDATED: Trump's EPA Just Greenlighted a Pesticide Known to Damage
Kids' Brains", Mother Jones, March 27, 2017.
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6. "Trump's EPA Greenlit This Pesticide Linked to Brain Damage. Eight
Senators Are Fighting Back.", Mother Jones, July 26, 2017.
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7. "UPDATE 1-U.S. senators seek ban on pesticide chlorpyrifos"
Reuters, July 25, 2017.
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8. "S.1624 - Protect Children, Farmers, and Farmworkers from Nerve
Agent Pesticides Act of 2017", Congress dot Gov, 115th Congress, July
25, 2017.
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and all lovers of Law and Order, everywhere.
Lovers, at least if you can write the laws and disregard them when you please.
This "pardon" of former sheriff Joe Arpaio should be taken seriously.
First, if you want the president to watch your back, you might want to
take out huge ads praising him and calling him "God Like".
Secondly, An important lesson is taught us by president Donald Trump.
The biggest bully on the block gets to make the rules, and to break
them when it pleases him.
And thirdly, and most important, the laws which we working class
citizens are expected to obey faithfully, are laws developed by what I
have called the American Oligarchy. What other names would you
prefer? These laws began when a bunch of White Men who were Land
Owners or very Wealthy, over the age of 21, gathered together and
decided that they did not like playing nice with King George any
longer. The Laws they drew up assured that if they won their freedom
from England, they would be protected, legally. These new laws did
not originally include Women, Slaves, Indians, Indentured Servants,
Drifters, People with no personal holdings, or Children under 21 years
of age. In other words, these new laws, called the Constitution, did
not include most of the Colonists.
These People, the Working Class who took up muskets and fought the war
for the Land Owners, had no voice in making up the rules. But they
did get to live by them, to obey them, and to suffer the consequences
if they violated them. Donald Trump is merely setting about, "Making
America Great Again!" He is doing this by deciding which laws to
obey, and which ones get in the way of "Making America Great Again".
I hasten to say that many of the laws we live under are good and fair
laws, including our Constitution and especially the Bill of
Rights...those wonderful amendments that do open the doors which allow
most of us some participation in the nation's affairs. But it is
limited, for example, our involvement in World Affairs. The Working
Class does not get to decide international Policies, since such
complex matters are assumed to be far beyond the abilities of us
simple minded folk. And we don't get to decide who should be pardoned
for breaking the Law, and who must serve out their time, or who should
be hunted down and jailed for breaking the same laws as those who are
among the privileged who are forgiven.
But all of that aside. Have any of you attempted to go to court and
present your case before a jury of your peers, or before a Judge?
Our attempt to resolve the matter of our neighbor's beaver pond
expanding into our horse pasture, cost us $6,000 before we ever went
before a Judge or a Jury of our Peers. We weighed the possibilities.
The laws here in Washington State are so vague, in regards to Beaver
dams, that we could as easily lose as win. If we lost, not only
would the Beavers happily continue blocking the creek and flooding our
land, but we would need to take out a loan to pay court costs, our
attorney and Heaven knows what else. My point is that we citizens do
have the right under the Law to present our case...if we can afford to
do so. But for a large portion of our People, looking to the Law for
help is only theoretical, not a reality.
As for why Ford lost his bid for the presidency? I think it was he
who lost, not his pardoning of Nixon. Jimmy Carter came on the
national scene with a fresh, almost boyish appearance. I remember TV
ads where Carter would appear, nodding and smiling, saying, "I'm Jimmy
Carter, and I'm running for president". Gerald Ford came on looking
like a stump next to a flowering cherry tree.

Carl Jarvis


On 8/29/17, Bob Hachey via acb-chat <acb-chat@acblists.org> wrote:
> Hi all,
> There is sure something unusual about Sheriff Joe's pardon. Most partodns
> are done after the law has taken its course and sentence handed down. The
> only other pardon that was done this way that I'm familiar with was that of
> former President Nixon. Ford probably lost the election of 1976 because of
> that pardon. But, given that we neded to move on past the Watergate crisis,
> it was probably the right thing to do. Seems to me that this pardon lacks
> that same redeeming quality.
> Bob Hachey
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Re: [blind-democracy] Re: Apria

Hi Frank,
I would suggest that Joe Arpaio has been elevated by Donald Trump, to
the level of that statue of General Robert E. Lee.
Both represent a way of Life in America. General Lee was defeated on
the battlefield, at the cost of thousands of lives.
Joe Arpaio was defeated at the polls with the cost of an unknown
number of Brown lives suffered during his long reign as Sheriff.
Both men are losers. But both are admired as heroes by their followers.
Because of this admiration, Heroes, especially heroes who are lifted
to the point of being bigger than life, can inspire people. Those
followers/worshipers of Lee and Arpaio are convicted of their belief
that the "White Race" is superior to all other "Races". Allowing Lee
and Arpaio to stand unchallenged is to give the impression that what
they represent is acceptable. And that offends me!

Carl Jarvis



On 8/26/17, Frank Ventura <frank.ventura@littlebreezes.com> wrote:
> His hatred is not just of foreigners but of anyone who is darker than he is
> and as someone else said the problem is racism not immigration. This year
> when I was traveling back from the ACB conference I was in a group of 4
> people heading to the same flight. I was the only one with dark skin. The
> other three (including my wife) just walked through security. However when I
> gave the TSA agent my passport and he looked it over and noticed the
> birthplace said New York (as is correct) he put his hand out in front of me
> as to infer "you aint traveling in my country" and said sarcastically "you
> weren't born in New York" as if I faked that and I was actually born in some
> far off land.
> Frank
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blind-democracy-bounce@freelists.org
> [mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie L.
> Sherrell
> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 1:59 AM
> To: blind-democracy@freelists.org
> Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Arpaio
>
> Good to hear from you, Kevin--it's been years!
>
> Oh, yes, let's pardon someone else who hates them foreigners as much as
> Trump himself does. Gads, he makes me crazy!
> Bonnie L. Sherrell
> Teacher at Large
>
> "Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very
> wise cannot see all ends." LOTR
>
> "Don't go where I can't follow."
>
> We gave the Goblin King control of our nation!
>
>
>
>
>

Norm Stamper and Donald Trump

One of the reasons I was pleased to hear Seattle's retired police
chief Norm Stamper on Flashpoint yesterday(Wednesday), expressing his
current views, was for exactly that reason. Stamper proves that
intelligent, thoughtful people do have the ability to learn from Life.
I sure respect the former Chief more than I do someone like the almost
Saint Billie Graham. Now don't get the wrong idea, I do not
disrespect Billie Graham. But I recall hearing him say something
about the fact that once he also had questions about the authenticity
of the Bible. He said he went onto the beach and knelt in the sand
before the open Bible. He kissed the pages and said that he would
accept every word as God's Truth. He told us that he has never had a
doubt, since that day.
Which brings to mind another block of marble, the "brain" of Donald
Trump. This man has been locked in a Time Warp. A warp that existed
long before Trump was born. 1850. Those were the "good years"...if
you were White, male, a land owner or possessing great wealth. Those
were the days when Men were Men, swaggering down their streets,
shoving "Coloreds", old women and nasty little urchins aside, while
winking at the comely young maidens.
Hey! Donald! Wake up and smell the Internet. Times have changed.
There are no more Windmills for you to joust. King Arthur's Round
Table was hauled off to the London Dump after the Knights took jobs as
Lobbyists in Washington D.C. And the Queen of Hearts ran away with
Little Black Sambo. Times, Donald, have changed...may I call you
Donald? Times no longer are all White.
And by the way, where do you want us to put all these old statues your
White Racists are busy defending, on your fancy ass golf course at
Trump Tower? Ah yes, the Trump Tower! It is so lonely at the top.
Donald Trump, Donald Trump, let down your hair. Maybe some wandering,
hansom prince will clamber up and kiss you and you will turn into an
ugly frog...maybe...here's hopping!

Carl Jarvis

Re: [blind-democracy] Re: Sunday

Actually, it's a coffee cup...with a saucer.
I suspect that Roger is not going to reach Bob, anymore than I will.
But I do enjoy Roger's rational explanations. We Humans are just
smart enough to be deadly dangerous. Whether we have the IQ of a
genius, like Einstein, or somewhere below an IQ of 90, like Donald
Trump, we are nowhere informed enough to begin to understand this
vastness we call "the Universe". Whether it is the current Pope, whom
I personally think is well above the average IQ, or Donald Trump, whom
I find to be cunning but immature, we see all sorts of wild beliefs.
Very bright people believe that God is a real Force. Idiots also
believe that God guides their lives. So do insane people, driven to
murder in the name of the Lord, God Almighty, or Allah, or some voice
that speaks to them from the radio or the TV, instructing them to
strike out. Each one is convinced that what they believe is the real
world.
But it's all hogwash. Unless we can demonstrate our belief, it is no
more valid than all the others. Just saying that God or Allah are
real is no different than saying that Alice saw a White Rabbit in a
vest and a top hat looking at a pocket watch as he hopped down a large
rabbit hole.
When Human Beings finally come to our senses and agree that we simply
do not have enough information to understand what is around us, then
perhaps we can get down to the business of expanding our information.
In the meantime, I guess many of us will prefer to wrap themselves up
in their Fairy Tales and be happy as they condemn everyone else for
their Fairy Tales. And that is why we will continue to live in a
state of Eternal War.

Carl Jarvis
PS. If you disagree with My Reality, just wait 25 years and let me
know the last time Peace broke out across the Planet. I'll be 107
that year.
CJ


On 8/13/17, Roger Loran Bailey <dmarc-noreply@freelists.org> wrote:
> Okay, I'll give you a rational answer. The problem with allah doing what
> you point to is that allah is not omnipotent. Allah is only a fairy tale
> character. What makes this rational is that to believe in the reality of
> fairy tale characters is irrational. Now, speaking of rationality and
> logic, I have been meaning to respond to an earlier message from you. At
> the time I had concentrated on another part of your message and did not
> get around to this part of it. You said that the existence of a deity is
> logical because everything that exists must have a creator. Let's stop a
> moment to look at what logic is. Logic is an information processing
> algorithm. One takes two or more pieces of information and process them
> with logic and one gets another piece of information that had not been
> there before. With that in mind let's look at the syllogism you were
> implying. Everything that exists must have a creator. The universe
> exists. Therefor the universe has a creator. That is the simplest of
> syllogisms in formal logic. It is flawlessly logical. However, the
> logical algorithm works just as well with false information as it does
> with correct information. I strongly suspect that your first premise is
> false information. That is the premise that everything that exists must
> have a creator. How do you know that is true? I suppose that you might
> come up with another syllogism to arrive at that premise, but then I
> would have to question the premises in the second syllogism. Ultimately,
> no matter how logical your argument it is necessary to provide some
> evidence for the premises. So how do you know that everything that
> exists must have a creator. Please provide an answer that has something
> to do with it being true. If you cannot come up with a reason to believe
> it then your claim has as much validity as the claim that a paisley
> unicorn is orbiting Jupiter in a tea cup.
>
>
> On 8/13/2017 12:58 AM, Bob wrote:
>> Hello, on each Sunday morning, fellow Congregationalists gather to
>> worship. In the Koran, there is a chapter called chapter of Mary. It
>> is numbered the nineteenthin a typical Koranic index. At its
>> inception, allah mentions when prophet Zechariah peace be upon him
>> desperately implored to his Lord in seclusion. He said, my Lord, my
>> bones have become feeble and my head has flamed with grey hair, and my
>> Lord, I have been never disappointed with my prayer to you. And, I
>> have been frightened with the dependants after me and my spouse has
>> been barren, so grant me with you a grace an heir. Shall he inherit me
>> and inherit from the house of Jacob, and make him my Lord pleasing. Oh
>> Zechariah, we give you the glad tidings of a boy named John, a name We
>> have never been given before. He said, my Lord, how can I have a son,
>> when my spouse is barren, and I have become decrepit with old age. He
>> said, It will be so, your Lord says, it is easy for me, and I created
>> you before, when you were nothing. He said, my Lord, give me a sign,
>> he said, your sign that you shall not speak to people for three nights
>> consecutively. And he came out to his people from the sanctuary and
>> signaled to them, glorify in the morning and evening. Oh John, hold
>> the scripture firmly and We gave him wisdom in his youth. And
>> tenderness from Us, and innocence. He was devout. And he was dutiful
>> to his parents, and he was not disobedient, tyrant. And peace be upon
>> him the day he was born, the day he dies and the day he is raised
>> alive. And mention in the Scripture Mary, when she withdrew from her
>> people to an eastern place. She screened herself away from them, and
>> We sent to her Our spirit, and He appeared to her as an immaculate
>> human. She said, I take refuge from you to the Most Merciful, should
>> you be righteous. He said, I am only the messenger of your Lord, to
>> give you the gift of a pure son. She said, how can I have a son when
>> no man has touched me and I was never unchaste. He said, thus said
>> your Lord, It is easy for Me, and We will make him a sign for
>> humanity, and a mercy from Us. The matter was predetermined. So she
>> carried him, and secluded herself with him in a remote place.
>> Laborpains came upon her by the trunk of a palmtree. She said, I wish
>> I had died before this and been completely forgotten. Whereupon he
>> called her from beneath her, shall not you grieve, your Lord has
>> placed a stream beneath you. And shake the trunk of the palmtree
>> towards you and it will drop on you edible dates. So eat,drinkand be
>> consoled. If you see any human, say, I have vowed a fast to the Most
>> Gracious, so I will not speak to any human today. Then she came to her
>> people carrying him, they said, oh Mary, you truly have done something
>> terrible. Oh sister of Aaron, your father was not wicked nor your
>> mother was unchaste. So she pointed to him, they said, how can we
>> speak to an infant in the crib. He said, I indeed am the servant of
>> Allah, He has given me the scripture and made me a prophet. And has
>> made me blessed wherever I may be, and has enjoined on me prayer and
>> charity, so long as I live. And deutiful to my mother, and hasn't made
>> me disobedient, rebel. So Peace is upon me the day I was born, and the
>> day I die, and the Day I get resurrected alive. This is indeed Jesus
>> son of Mary, the sentiment of truth upon which they tend to dispute.
>> Truly, Allah is my and your Lord, so worship Him. This is basically
>> the straight path. The Koran then says, and factions have dissented
>> from among them, so woe to those who disbelieved from the scene of a
>> great day. Each and every denomination has its rendition of who Jesus
>> was. However, Islam presents to the sincere seeker a plain portrait of
>> his genuine account. I am not destined to relentlessly argue. Each and
>> every individual is perfectly autonomous. I am not urging the provoke
>> of a uselessly theological debate. I am just presenting, without
>> stereotypic notion, the Islamic version of the Nativity tale. There
>> are major factors to consider. First, the Islamic story demonstrates
>> in clear terms, Allah's illimitable measurelessly Omnipotence. Second,
>> it enormously honours both Zechariah and John whom Christians call the
>> Baptist as equally, notable prophets. Third, it plainly honours Mary
>> and it righteously recognises her unparalleled celibacy. Fourth, it
>> recognises the Nativity tale while scrupulously maintaining plain
>> monotheism, exalting the divine from bearing a son. Fifth and
>> ultimately, it emphatically exonerates virtuous Mary from the
>> intolerable allegation Jews wrongfully impeached her with. I urge the
>> recipient of this post to carefully ponder, I do not urge you to
>> hasten. I am a caller to Islam. I at the end, want to ask you one
>> simple question. This question demands a clear and a straightforward
>> answer. If Allah is providentially Omnipotent, what is the problem
>> with Him procreating offspring from a decrepitly aged man and a barren
>> woman? Similarly, if Allah's Omnipotence is measureless,what is the
>> problem with Him procreating offspring from a virgin, and without any
>> masculine intervention? I believe that this question is rationally
>> valid and it therefore demands a logical answer. I again, do not
>> hasten anyone to instantly respond. I just am urging you to think
>> properly. Here is Bob greeting you, peace, blessings and much respect
>> from me.
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