collective bargaining: it cuts both ways

 

collective bargaining: it cuts both ways

 

I hope folks are shining up their marching boots.  We absolutely must fight to force our employers to keep their end of the bargain.  We kept ours. 

I worked for the state for 17 years and fulfilled my contractual agreement, signing off on salary and benefits.  There's no way I can go back and say, "You should have paid me better for all those years.  I demand a retroactive raise".  Yet, this is what some state politicians are wanting to do.  "We agreed to pay you X dollars in retirement benefits as part of your labor. But now we see that this is just too much, so we are going back on our end of the deal.  Too bad." 

Like I say, if they can go back, so can we. 

 

Curious Carl

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From: Baracco, Andrew W

To: acb-l@acb.org

Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 11:44 AM

Subject: Re: [acb-l] collective bargaining

Actually, now he wants to change the teachers retirement system, and the changes he proposes would affect current as well as future retirees.  This is what's scary.  You work all of your life, and pay into a pension fund and are promised a benefit level.  You plan your whole life with that benefit level in mind, and then you find that you will only get half of that benefit, or none at all.  Then what's left?  Trying to get a job at age 75.?  Maybe Wal-Mart will hire you as a greeter.

 

Andy

 

 

From: acb-l-bounces@acb.org [mailto:acb-l-bounces@acb.org] On Behalf Of Abby Vincent
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 10:02 AM
To: 'Ray Campbell'; acb-l@acb.org
Subject: Re: [acb-l] collective bargaining

 

We very well may be at a crossroads.  In California, we have a governor who, in his previous term in office, supported the right of government workers to have unions.  Now he's back in office, trying to be honest with the voters about the financial hole we're all in.  Most of it is a revenue problem.  The recession hit us hard, so there's less income tax, less property tax, less sales tax being generated.  We just might find a way to revitalize the economy and balance the budget without leaving major players with little or no say in their future.  Either that, or we become a protectorate and let the rest of the country assume our debts.

Abby

 

From: Ray Campbell [mailto:ray1530@wowway.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 9:15 PM
To: 'Abby Vincent'; acb-l@acb.org
Subject: RE: [acb-l] collective bargaining

 

Hi Abby:

 

I'm not saying I believe this argument, but the argument as it goes from those supporting what Wisconsin Governor Walker is doing goes something like, we have to place curbs on collective bargaining because it's through collective bargaining that state workers have gotten the sweet benefit packages which are unaffordable.

 

I'll be curious when this bill passes in Wisconsin if it holds up against Federal labor law.  It is very extreme.  I think we're at a crossroads in our nation's history when it comes to unions, and how this is ultimately decided is going to change the relationship between Those who employ Government workers and the workers themselves forever.

 

 

Ray Campbell

ray1530@wowway.com

 

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