Tuesday, September 29, 2015

Re: Mother and Apple Pie aren't all that American, either

My point is that we only go back to our own conquest of America,
painting our pretty pictures of our Glorious Land from those days
forward. But the America before our People came crashing and bashing
their way across from Sea to Shining Sea, were People with different
values. They also beat back even earlier Americans, who had also
carved their homes from the Wilderness.
Donald Trump, Ben Carson, Hilary Clinton and all the Machine
Politicians need to revisit their American History.

Carl Jarvis

On 9/29/15, Carl Jarvis <carjar82@gmail.com> wrote:
> Christians versus Muslims versus Atheists versus Agnostics...
> None of it is American. Apple Pie, Peanut Butter and Jam Sandwiches,
> Soda Pop and Big Macs. None of it is American.
> Try instead, The Great Spirit, Maize, Tobacco, Roast Bison and Elk
> Steaks. Now we're getting closer to America. Black hair, Copper
> Skin, Deer Skin Clothing, Bear Skin Rugs. And fish for the taking
> from the clear, sparkling streams. America, the Land of Plenty.
> America, a Time before Time mattered. A Land of People satisfying
> their human needs rather than slaving to enrich the gold and silver of
> the White Man from over the Great Waters.
> America, a Land of People. A Land void of the likes of Donald Trump
> and Ben Carson and Hilary Clinton.
>
> Carl Jarvis
>
> On 9/29/15, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@optonline.net> wrote:
>>
>> Published on Alternet (http://www.alternet.org)
>> Home > What Trump and Carson Get Wrong: Islam Is as American as Apple Pie
>> ________________________________________
>> What Trump and Carson Get Wrong: Islam Is as American as Apple Pie
>> By Joshua Holland [1] / The Nation [2]
>> September 28, 2015
>> Not content with alienating single women, Latinos and the LGBT
>> community, the two front-runners for the Republican nomination indulged
>> in
>> some naked Islamophobia this past week.
>> Donald Trump told an audience member at one of his events that he'd "look
>> into" either expelling America's Muslim population, or the existence of
>> Jihadi training camps on US soil, depending on how charitably one viewed
>> the
>> exchange.
>> Then Ben Carson appeared on Meet The Press, where he told Chuck Todd that
>> Islam was inconsistent with the Constitution and said that he "would not
>> advocate that we put a Muslim in charge of this nation."
>> This kind of bigotry won't hurt these candidates in the primary. A YouGov
>> poll earlier this year found that only one in five Americans-and one in
>> seven Republicans-held a positive view of Islam. And according to Public
>> Policy polling, only half of Iowa Republicans "think the religion of
>> Islam
>> should even be legal in the United States." Ben Carson reportedly saw his
>> donations spike after his interview with Todd.
>> But this kind of callous disregard for a minority that's faced serious
>> discrimination-and no small amount of violence-should hurt. The
>> candidates
>> reinforced a central tenet-perhaps the central tenet-of anti-Muslim
>> bigotry:
>> That Islam is an inherently foreign religion that's incompatible with US
>> citizenship. This view is common among shouty people who protest outside
>> mosques and politicians who push those Constitutionally sketchy bans on
>> "Sharia law."
>> In that sense, claims that Barack Obama is a crypto-Muslim are really a
>> proxy for the belief that he was born in Kenya and is ineligble to be
>> president. A poll earlier this month found that 66 percent of Trump's
>> supporters said Obama is a Muslim and 61 percent thought he was born
>> overseas. (Perhaps we shouldn't give Trump, an avowed "birther", the
>> benefit
>> of the doubt in his exchange with that guy in the audience.)
>> It's a belief based on the kind of widely debunked "history" peddled by
>> David Barton, a popular figure on the tea party circuit who claims that
>> the
>> United States is a "Christian nation" founded by men whose theology
>> resembled Mike Huckabee's.
>> But while Muslims are a small minority, Islam is just as American as
>> Christianity. It's true that a significant share of Muslims living in the
>> U.S. today were born abroad, but it's also true that from the very
>> beginning, Islam has always been part of the social fabric of this
>> country.
>> In fact, it's possible that Muslims got here before the first Christians.
>> According to the PBS special, some historians believe that Muslims first
>> arrived in the Americas in the early 14th century, after being expelled
>> from
>> Spain. Others say that Christopher Columbus referred to a book written by
>> Portuguese Muslims who had navigated to the "New World" in the 12th
>> century
>> during his 1492 voyage.
>> Those are controversial claims. But it's clear that Muslims arrived here
>> in
>> significant numbers in the 16th century, along with large-scale European
>> colonization. Some came voluntarily, but many more were brought here
>> forcibly to work as slaves.
>>
>> According to the Encyclopedia of Religion in the South, 10-15 percent of
>> all
>> slaves were Muslims, many of whom were "literate and highly educated,"
>> and
>> "kept the spirit of Islam burning even while enslaved."
>> Several Muslims fought for America's independence with distinction under
>> George Washington. Greg Considine, a sociologist at Rice University,
>> wrote
>> for the Huffington Post that one soldier believed to have been a Muslim,
>> Peter Buckminster, "etched his name into American history at the Battle
>> of
>> Bunker Hill by firing the shot which killed Great Britain's Major General
>> John Pitcairn." Muslim-Americans fought in the War of 1812, in the Civil
>> War
>> and in every major conflict since.
>> From the 1870s until 1924, when the United States severely restricted
>> most
>> non-white immigration, new arrivals from the Middle East-mostly from
>> Syria
>> and Lebanon-swelled the Muslim population. Their descendants have been
>> Americans for many generations.
>> Thirty years later, when the US once again opened its doors to new
>> immigrants, a new wave of Muslim immigrants arrived here from Africa,
>> Asia
>> and the Middle East.
>> At around that time, the rise of the African-American Muslim Nationalist
>> Movement led to huge numbers of new converts. According to Gallup, 35
>> percent of Muslims in America today are black-the largest group within
>> the
>> most ethnically diverse faith in the United States.
>>
>> Estimates vary widely, but there are somewhere between one and six
>> million
>> muslims in the United States. According to a 2004 survey by Zogby
>> International, they tend to "have a favorable outlook on life in America,
>> and wish to be a part of the mainstream." Almost six in 10 hold at least
>> an
>> undergraduate degree, making them the most educated faith group in this
>> country. Many work in professional fields. America's Muslim community is
>> believed to be the wealthiest in the world. They have high rates of civic
>> participation, and there's no evidence that they embrace extremism at a
>> higher rate than Christians or Jews.
>> According to Gallup, Muslim women are among the most educated in the
>> country, and work outside the home at a slightly higher rate than
>> American
>> women as a whole. One in three have a professional job. The gender
>> pay-gap
>> among American Muslims is smaller that that of any other group.
>> The Pew report prompted Bret Stephens and Joseph Rago to write in The
>> Wall
>> Street Journal that "America's Muslims tend to be role models both as
>> Americans and as Muslims." But to varying degrees, they have always faced
>> discrimination and persecution at the hands of America's Christian
>> majority.
>> Muslim slaves were often forced to practice their religion in secrecy.
>> Many
>> were forcibly converted to Christianity. In his book, The Crescent
>> Obscured:
>> The United States and the Muslim World, 1776-1815, historian Robert
>> Allison
>> notes that some anti-Federalists at the Constitutional Convention of 1787
>> didn't want to include religious liberty in the Bill of Rights because it
>> would protect the Islamic faith-an argument echoed today by people like
>> Ben
>> Carson, or Representative Jodi Hice (R-Georgia), who wrote that Islam "is
>> a
>> complete geo-political structure and, as such, does not deserve First
>> Amendment protection."
>> Sadly, Islamophobia isn't just a problem on the right. In the Yougov poll
>> cited above, 43 percent of Democrats said they held an unfavorable view
>> of
>> Islam, and Pew found that "a majority of Muslims say a friend or family
>> member has suffered discrimination since the September 11 attacks."
>> Casual
>> Islamophobia is often tolerated in a way that bigotry toward other
>> minorities is not.
>> It's time for this to stop. After 400 years in the Americas, and having
>> helped build and defend this country, we need to accept that American
>> Muslims are just as American-and just as loyal-as anyone else.
>> Joshua Holland is Senior Digital Producer at BillMoyers.com [3], and host
>> of
>> Politics and Reality Radio [4]. He's the author of The 15 Biggest Lies
>> About
>> the Economy [5]. Drop him an email [6] or follow him on Twitter [7].
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>> Published on Alternet (http://www.alternet.org)
>> Home > What Trump and Carson Get Wrong: Islam Is as American as Apple Pie
>>
>> What Trump and Carson Get Wrong: Islam Is as American as Apple Pie
>> By Joshua Holland [1] / The Nation [2]
>> September 28, 2015
>> Not content with alienating single women, Latinos and the LGBT community,
>> the two front-runners for the Republican nomination indulged in some
>> naked
>> Islamophobia this past week.
>> Donald Trump told an audience member at one of his events that he'd "look
>> into" either expelling America's Muslim population, or the existence of
>> Jihadi training camps on US soil, depending on how charitably one viewed
>> the
>> exchange.
>> Then Ben Carson appeared on Meet The Press, where he told Chuck Todd that
>> Islam was inconsistent with the Constitution and said that he "would not
>> advocate that we put a Muslim in charge of this nation."
>> This kind of bigotry won't hurt these candidates in the primary. A YouGov
>> poll earlier this year found that only one in five Americans-and one in
>> seven Republicans-held a positive view of Islam. And according to Public
>> Policy polling, only half of Iowa Republicans "think the religion of
>> Islam
>> should even be legal in the United States." Ben Carson reportedly saw his
>> donations spike after his interview with Todd.
>> But this kind of callous disregard for a minority that's faced serious
>> discrimination-and no small amount of violence-should hurt. The
>> candidates
>> reinforced a central tenet-perhaps the central tenet-of anti-Muslim
>> bigotry:
>> That Islam is an inherently foreign religion that's incompatible with US
>> citizenship. This view is common among shouty people who protest outside
>> mosques and politicians who push those Constitutionally sketchy bans on
>> "Sharia law."
>> In that sense, claims that Barack Obama is a crypto-Muslim are really a
>> proxy for the belief that he was born in Kenya and is ineligble to be
>> president. A poll earlier this month found that 66 percent of Trump's
>> supporters said Obama is a Muslim and 61 percent thought he was born
>> overseas. (Perhaps we shouldn't give Trump, an avowed "birther", the
>> benefit
>> of the doubt in his exchange with that guy in the audience.)
>> It's a belief based on the kind of widely debunked "history" peddled by
>> David Barton, a popular figure on the tea party circuit who claims that
>> the
>> United States is a "Christian nation" founded by men whose theology
>> resembled Mike Huckabee's.
>> But while Muslims are a small minority, Islam is just as American as
>> Christianity. It's true that a significant share of Muslims living in the
>> U.S. today were born abroad, but it's also true that from the very
>> beginning, Islam has always been part of the social fabric of this
>> country.
>> In fact, it's possible that Muslims got here before the first Christians.
>> According to the PBS special, some historians believe that Muslims first
>> arrived in the Americas in the early 14th century, after being expelled
>> from
>> Spain. Others say that Christopher Columbus referred to a book written by
>> Portuguese Muslims who had navigated to the "New World" in the 12th
>> century
>> during his 1492 voyage.
>> Those are controversial claims. But it's clear that Muslims arrived here
>> in
>> significant numbers in the 16th century, along with large-scale European
>> colonization. Some came voluntarily, but many more were brought here
>> forcibly to work as slaves.
>> According to the Encyclopedia of Religion in the South, 10-15 percent of
>> all
>> slaves were Muslims, many of whom were "literate and highly educated,"
>> and
>> "kept the spirit of Islam burning even while enslaved."
>> Several Muslims fought for America's independence with distinction under
>> George Washington. Greg Considine, a sociologist at Rice University,
>> wrote
>> for the Huffington Post that one soldier believed to have been a Muslim,
>> Peter Buckminster, "etched his name into American history at the Battle
>> of
>> Bunker Hill by firing the shot which killed Great Britain's Major General
>> John Pitcairn." Muslim-Americans fought in the War of 1812, in the Civil
>> War
>> and in every major conflict since.
>> From the 1870s until 1924, when the United States severely restricted
>> most
>> non-white immigration, new arrivals from the Middle East-mostly from
>> Syria
>> and Lebanon-swelled the Muslim population. Their descendants have been
>> Americans for many generations.
>> Thirty years later, when the US once again opened its doors to new
>> immigrants, a new wave of Muslim immigrants arrived here from Africa,
>> Asia
>> and the Middle East.
>> At around that time, the rise of the African-American Muslim Nationalist
>> Movement led to huge numbers of new converts. According to Gallup, 35
>> percent of Muslims in America today are black-the largest group within
>> the
>> most ethnically diverse faith in the United States.
>> Estimates vary widely, but there are somewhere between one and six
>> million
>> muslims in the United States. According to a 2004 survey by Zogby
>> International, they tend to "have a favorable outlook on life in America,
>> and wish to be a part of the mainstream." Almost six in 10 hold at least
>> an
>> undergraduate degree, making them the most educated faith group in this
>> country. Many work in professional fields. America's Muslim community is
>> believed to be the wealthiest in the world. They have high rates of civic
>> participation, and there's no evidence that they embrace extremism at a
>> higher rate than Christians or Jews.
>> According to Gallup, Muslim women are among the most educated in the
>> country, and work outside the home at a slightly higher rate than
>> American
>> women as a whole. One in three have a professional job. The gender
>> pay-gap
>> among American Muslims is smaller that that of any other group.
>> The Pew report prompted Bret Stephens and Joseph Rago to write in The
>> Wall
>> Street Journal that "America's Muslims tend to be role models both as
>> Americans and as Muslims." But to varying degrees, they have always faced
>> discrimination and persecution at the hands of America's Christian
>> majority.
>> Muslim slaves were often forced to practice their religion in secrecy.
>> Many
>> were forcibly converted to Christianity. In his book, The Crescent
>> Obscured:
>> The United States and the Muslim World, 1776-1815, historian Robert
>> Allison
>> notes that some anti-Federalists at the Constitutional Convention of 1787
>> didn't want to include religious liberty in the Bill of Rights because it
>> would protect the Islamic faith-an argument echoed today by people like
>> Ben
>> Carson, or Representative Jodi Hice (R-Georgia), who wrote that Islam "is
>> a
>> complete geo-political structure and, as such, does not deserve First
>> Amendment protection."
>> Sadly, Islamophobia isn't just a problem on the right. In the Yougov poll
>> cited above, 43 percent of Democrats said they held an unfavorable view
>> of
>> Islam, and Pew found that "a majority of Muslims say a friend or family
>> member has suffered discrimination since the September 11 attacks."
>> Casual
>> Islamophobia is often tolerated in a way that bigotry toward other
>> minorities is not.
>> It's time for this to stop. After 400 years in the Americas, and having
>> helped build and defend this country, we need to accept that American
>> Muslims are just as American-and just as loyal-as anyone else.
>> Joshua Holland is Senior Digital Producer at BillMoyers.com [3], and host
>> of
>> Politics and Reality Radio [4]. He's the author of The 15 Biggest Lies
>> About
>> the Economy [5]. Drop him an email [6] or follow him on Twitter [7].
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>> Report typos and corrections to 'corrections@alternet.org'. [8]
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>> Source URL:
>> http://www.alternet.org/belief/alternet-comics-brian-mcfadden-martin-shkreli
>> s-free-market-pharmacy
>> Links:
>> [1] http://www.alternet.org/authors/joshua-holland
>> [2] http://www.thenation.com
>> [3] http://billmoyers.com
>> [4] http://alternetradio.podbean.com
>> [5] http://www.powells.com/partner/32513/biblio/9780470643921
>> [6] mailto: joshua.holland@alternet.org
>> [7] http://twitter.com/JoshuaHol
>> [8] mailto:corrections@alternet.org?Subject=Typo on What Trump and Carson
>> Get Wrong: Islam Is as American as Apple Pie
>> [9] http://www.alternet.org/
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