Re: [blind-democracy] Re: book

Miriam wrote: "it does is to destroy whomever it wishes in order to
maintain dominance."
And all the People said, "Amen!"
For certain, as far back as recorded history teaches us, we have
understood that our basic animal nature must be controlled in order
that we might live in peace with one another. Mankind entered the
animal kingdom as one of countless life forms fighting for survival.
Equal Opportunity was not in this mix. Man survived and established
himself as a species to be taken seriously.
Over Time, long centuries, he learned to control nearly all other life
on planet Earth...with the exception of some viruses. But without
understanding it, Man became so dominant that he began to destroy the
very Earth he had set out to control.
So here is the point of this over simplified history lesson:
It does not matter who you are, or what your personal Beliefs are, or
what nation you claim as your own, or whether you are Man Woman or
Other, whether you are young or old, we all share in a basic "Human
Nature".
That Nature is so fierce and so driven that if left unchecked it will
destroy us all. The very nature that brought us to this place in our
travels, even to being able to manipulate our environment, even to
sending space crafts to Mars, this very great strength of ours will
turn on us...is turning on us, and will wipe us from the face of the
Earth.
We sometimes talk about how we have been manipulated by our "Leaders",
but in truth we follow strong people because we are them. We are
divided into nations, and those nations are divided into smaller and
smaller factions, because we have too many Controllers looking for a
place at the top.
Yet, we know we must find a way to control our controlling nature.
The Bible, and other Holy Books, have long understood that our
salvation lies within our ability to "Change our Nature". So far this
has been beyond our ability to do.
Again, the Bible says, "The meek shall inherit the Earth". Well,
Mister and Missus Meek, you'd better step up and get busy inheriting.
You'd better disavow All current world leaders and establish a World
Survival Government. And yes, that means you will need to use Control
and Dominance as your weapons. But if controlled, these tools can
direct us toward ending the uncontrolled control that now has us in a
death grip.

Carl Jarvis


On 3/3/19, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@optonline.net> wrote:
> Bob,
>
> When I started reading this book, I immediately thought of you because I
> know that you have bought the demonizing of Putin, hook, line, and sinker.
> Because this line of thinking is so pervasive and is supported by so many
> people, it would be surprising if most people hadn't been taught to think
> this way. I suppose that because I'm so old and because I've seen this
> happen before with such disastrous results, and also because I tend to be a
> lot less amenable to what the majority of people think, I'm more open to
> information that differs from the mainstream. But having said all that,
> Stephen F. Cohen is a very reputable and knowledgeable man and the book
> traces what happened, mostly starting in 2013. I remember most of what he
> talks about because I was reading about it and watching it as it happened,
> although there were some things that happened and some lies that were told,
> that I missed. I think that it's really important to read the book because
> it will clear up some misconceptions that you might have. Cohen is very
> realistic about Putin. He is not a "Putin apologist", as detractors of
> anyone who hasn't bought the anti-Russian propaganda, assert. The reasons
> for the US opposition to Russia are the same as they have always been. They
> lie in world politics: who has what natural resources: who has access to
> what financial markets: who has access to transportation routes: who will
> submit to the domination of the US. The US deep state has never changed
> this
> country's foreign policy, and it will continue to divert the public's
> attention from what it is doing by using figleafs like socialism,
> communism,
> and the personalities of various leaders, describing them as autocrats, in
> order to achieve its goals. It is doing that with Russia and China now, and
> with Venezuela and Iran. Whether it's Hillary Clinton, Jimmy Carter or
> someone more hard line like John Bolton, the US does what it does. And what
> it does is to destroy whomever it wishes in order to maintain dominance.
>
> Miriam
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blind-democracy-bounce@freelists.org
> <blind-democracy-bounce@freelists.org> On Behalf Of Bob Hachey
> Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2019 6:00 PM
> To: blind-democracy@freelists.org
> Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: book
>
> Hi Miriam,
> While I have little doubt that the whole rusiagate thing has been
> overblown,
> it will take a lot to convince me that Putin is not an evil bastard, likely
> worse than Mr. Bastard, Oops! I meant trump! IN many ways, I believe Putin
> and trump to be birds of a feather.
> So sad how the US has screwed up royally since the fall of the Berlin Wall.
> Our bad behavior has given Russia justification for things like the
> invasion
> of Ukraine. Russia has morphed from communist dictatorship into rule by
> mob.
> Then again, the US government seems more and more to be similar to rule by
> the mob.
> After the fall of the soviet Union, the media kept telling us how
> capitalism
> and democracy would prevail in Russia. But lectures from a college history
> prof convinced me of how unlikely that would be. Basically, his theme was
> that a population accustomed to dictatorial rule can never morph into any
> kind of democracy quicly. That kind of evolution takes centuries if it
> happens at all.
> Meanwhile, the US has morphed from a form of economics and politics wherein
> one had at least a small amount of hope of rising from poverty into the
> middle class into a true plutocracy that makes this kind of upward mobility
> far less likely.
> Bob Hachey
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blind-democracy-bounce@freelists.org
> [mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 9:10 PM
> To: blind-democracy@freelists.org
> Subject: [blind-democracy] book
>
> On the Flashpoints podcast, I heard 2 short excerpts of a talk given by
> Stephen F. Cohen and his wife, who is the editor of The Nation magazine.
> Cohen is a retired Professor who is an expert on the history and culture of
> Russia. He and his wife have lived there for several years. In 2014, he
> began speaking out against the demonizing of Russia, and he was soundly
> criticized for this by many people in the mainstream media. He mentioned in
> his talk, that he's recently written a book called, War With Russia?, which
> covers some history of the cold war and also, what has been happening in
> the
> last few years, including Russiagate. I am telling you all of this because
> I
> looked this evening, and found the book on Bookshare, in case anyone is
> interested.
>
> Miriam
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