And through all the smoke and mirrors, what has become of the real issue.
How does a free people stay free when they are told nothing and ordered to
keep their mouths shut?
Snowden's future looks grim. Once his location is pin pointed on the
strategic Pentagon maps, a drone will take him out, and we will be told that
we are all so much safer.
Here's another dilemma. Random killing by unmanned drones, along with our
troops pushing people around in other countries, make life less safe for
Americans, both at home as well as abroad. But what makes life unsafe for
the Corporate Empire is transparency. Transparency is the biggest single
threat to an Empire's control.
You know something else? I'm feeling lately like I'm living in Merry Old
England, and we're trying to stamp out them pesky, uppity colonists.
Why can't they just live by our laws?
Carl Jarvis
----- Original Message -----
From: "joe harcz Comcast" <joeharcz@comcast.net>
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Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 7:30 AM
Subject: Re: where's waldo one?
You got that right!
And every country including Russia/Putin are chuckling. Of course Putin the
former KGB big wig has his "sins". But, regardless where is Waldo?
I was highly amused both with the MSNBC coverage of the hunt for Snowden as
well as CNN's....
Looks like one 30 year old geek with only a GED and all that sort of crap
has the entire United States government confused as to his whereabouts....
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl Jarvis" <carjar82@gmail.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: where's waldo one?
> Gosh, I can sure feel President Barak Obama's pain. Here he is, the
> Prince
> of Peace, the most powerful leader of all time, and he's the laughing
> stock
> of the entire planet Earth.
> Macho Guys, especially the Numero Uno Macho Guy, do not like to be laughed
> at. It messes with their testosterone. And of course this goes for the
> entire Industrial/Military Corporate Empire.
> Talk about puffed up power brokers with a major hard on for Edward
> Snowden!
> They don't really believe that he has damaged our security, they are just
> plain pissed off that some little punk has dared to rise up out of the
> herd
> and embarrass them.
> And that's all it's about.
>
> Carl Jarvis
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "joe harcz Comcast" <joeharcz@comcast.net>
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> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 6:38 AM
> Subject: where's waldo one?
>
>
> Russia rejects US demand for Snowden's extradition By Vladimir Isachenkov
> By
> Vladimir Isachenkov MOSCOW - Russia's foreign minister bluntly rejected
> U.S.
>
> demands to extradite National Security Agency leaker Edward Snowden,
> saying
> Tuesday that Snowden hasn't crossed the Russian border. Sergey Lavrov
> insisted
>
> that Russia has nothing to do with Snowden or his travel plans. Lavrov
> wouldn't say where Snowden is, but he lashed out angrily at Washington for
> demanding
>
> his extradition and warning of negative consequences if Moscow fails to
> comply. U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry on Monday urged Moscow to "do
> the
> right
>
> thing" and turn over Snowden. We consider the attempts to accuse Russia of
> violation of U.S. laws and even some sort of conspiracy, which on top of
> all
>
> that are accompanied by threats, as absolutely ungrounded and
> unacceptable,"
> Lavrov said. There are no legal grounds for such conduct of U.S.
> officials.
>
> The defiant tone underlined the Kremlin's readiness to challenge
> Washington
> at a time when U.S. -Russian relations are strained over Syria and a
> Russian
>
> ban on adoptions by Americans. U.S. and Ecuadorean officials said they
> believed Snowden was still in Russia. He fled there Sunday from Hong Kong,
> where
>
> he had been hiding out since his disclosure of the broad scope of two
> highly
> classified U.S. counterterror surveillance programs. The programs collect
>
> vast amounts of Americans' phone records and worldwide online data in the
> name of national security. Lavrov claimed that the Russian government
> found
> out
>
> about Snowden's flight from Hong Kong only from news reports. We have no
> relation to Mr. Snowden, his relations with American justice or his
> travels
> around
>
> the world," Lavrov said. He chooses his route himself, and we have learned
> about it from the media. Snowden booked a seat on a Havana-bound flight
> from
>
> Moscow on Monday en route to Venezuela and then possible asylum in
> Ecuador,
> but he didn't board the plane. Russian news media have reported that he
> has
>
> remained in a transit zone of Moscow's Sheremetyevo airport, but
> journalists
> there haven't seen him. A representative of WikiLeaks has been traveling
> with
>
> Snowden, and the organization is believed to be assisting him in arranging
> asylum. The organization's founder, Julian Assange, said Monday that
> Snowden
>
> was only passing through Russia and had applied for asylum in Ecuador,
> Iceland and possibly other countries. A high-ranking Ecuadorean official
> told The
>
> Associated Press that Russia and Ecuador were discussing where Snowden
> could
> go, saying the process could take days. He also said Ecuador's ambassador
>
> to Moscow had not seen or spoken to Snowden. The official spoke on
> condition
> of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the case publicly.
> Ecuador's
>
> foreign minister, Ricardo Patino, hailed Snowden on Monday as "a man
> attempting to bring light and transparency to facts that affect everyone's
> fundamental
>
> liberties. He described the decision on whether to grant Snowden asylum as
> a
> choice between "betraying the citizens of the world or betraying certain
> powerful
>
> elites in a specific country. State Department spokesman Patrick Ventrell
> said the U.S. had made demands to "a series of governments," including
> Ecuador,
>
> that Snowden be barred from any international travel other than to be
> returned to the U.S. The U.S. has revoked Snowden's passport. We're
> following all
>
> the appropriate legal channels and working with various other countries to
> make sure that the rule of law is observed," President Barack Obama told
> reporters.
>
> Some experts said it was likely that Russian spy agencies were questioning
> Snowden on what he knows about U.S. electronic espionage against Moscow.
> If
>
> Russian special services hadn't shown interest in Snowden, they would have
> been utterly unprofessional," Igor Korotchenko, a former colonel in
> Russia's
>
> top military command turned security analyst, said on state Rossiya 24
> television. The Kremlin has previously said Russia would be ready to
> consider Snowden's
>
> request for asylum. Snowden is a former CIA employee who later was hired
> as
> a contractor for the NSA. In that job, he gained access to documents that
> he
>
> gave to newspapers The Guardian and The Washington Post to expose what he
> contends are privacy violations by an authoritarian government. Snowden
> also
>
> told the South China Morning Post newspaper in Hong Kong that "the NSA
> does
> all kinds of things like hack Chinese cellphone companies to steal all of
> your
>
> SMS data. He is believed to have more than 200 additional sensitive
> documents in laptops he is carrying. Some observers said in addition to
> the
> sensitive
>
> data, Snowden's revelations have provided the Kremlin with propaganda
> arguments to counter the U.S. criticism of Russia's crackdown on
> opposition
> and civil
>
> activists under President Vladimir Putin. They would use Snowden to
> demonstrate that the U.S. government doesn't sympathize with the ideals of
> freedom
>
> of information, conceals key information from the public and stands ready
> to
> open criminal proceedings against those who oppose it," Konstantin
> Remchukov,
>
> the editor of independent daily Nezavisimaya Gazeta, said on Ekho Moskvy
> radio. Putin has accused the U.S. State Department of instigating protests
> in
>
> Moscow against his re-election for a third term and has taken an
> anti-American posture that plays well with his core support base of
> industrial workers
>
> and state employees.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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