And God looked at His Son and they winked at one another with their single
large unblinking eye. Their antenna sent telegraphic messages back and
forth. "I swear on Myself," God signaled. "I really tried to make them in
My image. But at the very last possible second, Adam wiggled and spoiled it
all."
"Boy, Dad," Jesus chortled. "Will they be in for a surprise when they come
through them Golden Gates."
And their peels of laughter boomed across the face of Planet Earth, causing
strong men to quake and women to pull their young to them and hide.
Carl Jarvis
----- Original Message -----
From: "R. E. Driscoll Sr" <llocsirdsr@att.net>
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Taboo Topic
All:
In India he has characteristics of those of Indian Culture. I Japan he
has characteristics of Oriental. Same is true for China except that I
think that pictures of him are now prohibited. The so called white man
has given him characteristics that remind him of him.
R. E. ( Dick) Driscoll, Sr.
On 6/14/2013 12:08 PM, joe harcz Comcast wrote:
> P.S. I'm liking this new pope too so far as it goes.
>
> But, back to the basics how come Jesus, a Sephardic Jew who
> undoubtedly was swarthy, with a large nose and of dark hair always
> depicted as a blond haired, blue eyed Aryan sort.
>
> BTW my beloved is olive skinned, with black hair (in ringlets like on
> a Roman or Grecian urn mind you) and with a long, but noble
> Mediterranean nose. I find those things pretty personally so I'm not
> knocking the real Jesus' physical attributes in the least.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Jarvis" <carjar82@gmail.com>
> To: "Blind Democracy Discussion List" <blind-democracy@octothorp.org>
> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 11:31 AM
> Subject: NPR.org Text-Only : Pope's Reference To 'Gay Lobby' Broaches
> Taboo Topic
>
>
>> Say what?
>> Messori said Jesus was not poor and even dressed well.
>> "Jesus wore Armani," he added.
>>
>> So Messori is privy to information not available to the general public.
>> Must be old photographs stored in the deep Vatican Tombs.
>> Or at least Jesus must have posed for his portrait, painted by Leonardo
>> Davinci.
>> We think we know that Jesus was a carpenter, as was his Earth Father,
>> but
>> these were not people who had a chain of handmade furniture stores.
>> Maybe Messori found some old bank statements co-signed by Jesus'
>> Heavenly
>> Father?
>> Of course any man who could turn water into wine, heal the Lepers and
>> raise
>> up the dead would not need a pocket full of Shekels.
>>
>> Carl Jarvis
>> PS. I'm liking this new Pope...
>>
>>
>>
>> By Sylvia Poggioli
>>
>> All Things Considered, June 13, 2013 · The Roman Catholic Church teaches
>> that homosexual acts are a grave sin. But the existence of active gay
>> prelates in the Vatican bureaucracy known as the Roman Curia has been
>> considered a poorly held secret for centuries.
>>
>> Robert Mickens, Vatican correspondent for the British Catholic weekly
>> The
>> Tablet, says the normal definition of a lobby as an organized group of
>> people pushing a specific agenda does not apply here.
>>
>> He prefers to call it a gay subculture.
>>
>> "Many of these people in the Vatican that are gay and even acting out
>> are
>> extremely conservative," Mickens says. "These are not people that
>> want to
>> change the church's teaching on homosexuality - not at all."
>>
>> Representatives of the Latin American and Caribbean Confederation of
>> Religious Men and Women had a question-and-answer session last week with
>> Pope Francis.
>>
>> In their summary of his remarks, the pope said that in the Curia,
>> "there are
>> holy people, but there is also a stream of corruption ... the gay
>> lobby is
>> mentioned, and it is true, it is there. We need to see what we can do."
>>
>> The Vatican spokesman, Father Federico Lombardi, says he has no comment
>> since the audience was private.
>>
>> The remarks appear to confirm unsourced media reports four months ago
>> of a
>> powerful gay lobby in the Vatican jockeying for power and influence. The
>> Vatican had denounced those reports as defamatory, unverified and
>> completely
>> false.
>>
>> Cleaning Up Church Administration
>>
>>
>> But inside the Vatican, "the big game is blackmail. It's a mutual
>> recrimination system - that's what is really twisted about the whole
>> thing,"
>> says Mickens. " 'I know he is doing this'; 'He knows I'm doing that';
>> checkmate. And that is how the game works. It is a bad, bad system."
>>
>> As soon as Francis became pope, he was given a secret report
>> commissioned by
>> his predecessor Benedict XVI about the leaks and scandals that had
>> plagued
>> his papacy.
>>
>> Vatican analyst Marco Politi says the report focused on the major
>> problems
>> afflicting the Vatican administration.
>>
>> "The three hot issues in the Vatican Curia are issues about career,
>> about
>> personal ambitions; are issues about money, which means corruption;
>> and are
>> issues about sex," he says.
>>
>> Reform of the Roman Curia was a rallying cry of pre-conclave discussions
>> among cardinals before electing the new pontiff. And before he became
>> pope,
>> then-Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio himself said the new pope's major task
>> will be
>> cleaning up the church administration.
>>
>> The scandal-tainted Vatican bank is another big issue the pope is
>> tackling,
>> Politi says.
>>
>> "There was money laundering through the Vatican bank, money of the
>> mafia,"
>> he says. "[At] the same time in the '90s, there were big amounts of
>> money
>> for bribes for Italian political parties."
>>
>> In his remarks to the Latin American religious, the pope admitted
>> that he
>> can't carry out these major reforms by himself.
>>
>> Opposition Within The Curia
>>
>>
>> Grumbling is beginning to be heard in conservative circles about the
>> pope's
>> emphasis on the poor and the need for the church to shed its image of
>> wealth
>> and be humble.
>>
>> The conservative Catholic commentator Vittorio Messori, who was close to
>> Pope Benedict, told the daily Il Fatto that the whole idea of a poor
>> church
>> is a historical lie.
>>
>> Messori said Jesus was not poor and even dressed well.
>>
>> "Jesus wore Armani," he added.
>>
>> Ezio Mauro, editor in chief of the daily La Repubblica, says that by
>> speaking openly of the big issues afflicting the church, the pope is
>> trying
>> to counteract mounting opposition within the Curia itself.
>>
>> "The pope is keenly aware this power structure has entrenched itself
>> underneath the legitimate government of the church," Mauro says. "He is
>> probably isolated, but he intends to change things."
>>
>> Francis has already made big changes from previous popes: He has
>> appointed a
>> commission of eight cardinals from all over the world to help him
>> govern and
>> reform the church.
>>
>> And he has decided not to live in the papal apartments, preferring to
>> stay
>> in the Santa Marta residence on Vatican grounds.
>>
>> There, he has breakfast and meals with other guests - visiting
>> prelates and
>> even low-level Vatican employees. And he frequently puts his own
>> coins in
>> the automatic espresso dispenser in the corridor.
>>
>> By making himself accessible and living as normally as possible on
>> his own
>> terms, Francis has bypassed the Curia machine and is dictating his own
>> message
>>
>>
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