Friday, November 7, 2014

Another Point Ted Made in 2012 that Is Even Truer after the 2014 Elections

Hello All Listers,
Could it be that our unwillingness to discuss, debate or even suggest
conversation on political issues, or World affairs, is due to many
years of conditioning by our Empire's media?
Are there any of you old enough to recall a time when our journalists
considered it their job to investigate anything that seemed out of
place? Including government actions and back room deals by
politicians? Unlike today, where so called journalists leap up to
defend and cover up or soft soap the Establishment.
It's a rare evening when I tune on the network news. Between piles of
commercials, repeated "teasers", cutesie reports, and lighthearted
kidding between news casters, I get very little hard news. And far
too often it's not pure reporting, it's
editorializing. And besides not having substantive issues to discuss,
one other reason folks turn to chatter about their children, or
mindless chit chat, is because they've not been taught how to discuss,
rather than to argue. We've allowed ourselves to become
confrontational or argumentative instead of listening to other views,
thinking about what's being said, and responding with conviction
rather than turning discussions into shouting matches.
We avoid such encounters. It's better to talk about little Jimmy's
performance in the school Christmas play.
Remember, we are no longer Citizens to our Ruling Class. The
Corporate Citizens see the Working Class as Consumers. One does not
educate consumers. One promotes one's product in a way that compels
consumers to buy, buy, buy.
And the biggest feeding frenzy is about to fall on our heads.

Carl Jarvis

On 11/5/14, Alice Dampman Humel <alicedh@verizon.net> wrote:
> It is so sad that discussions have to devolve into ugly arguments.
> Hot debates and discussions, disagreements, all fine, all welcome, usually
> enlightening, if at times frustrating. But it is so sad to see people
> walking around on eggshells and unable to sink their teeth into a nice juicy
> difference of opinion and debate about it.
> Anyhow, you know what I hear most people talking about? Whenever I go to a
> concert or opera or the theater, as soon as the lights go up at
> intermission, half the audience hauls out their cell phones and updates
> their Facebook wall or whatever, and th either half starts talking about
> their kids, their grandchildren in that competitive my kid is better than
> your kid way, and aren't you all so impressed because little Joshua got into
> Harvard, and Rebecca is on the dean's list and sarah is working in Paris for
> the semester, and little 3-year old Morty can feed himself and solve a
> Rubik's cube all at the same time. I always want to scream, "Are any of you
> listening to the music, watching the play, involved in the melodrama and
> tragedy in the opera? Do any of you want to talk about the music, the
> theater, art, the author, the composer, the musicians, the actors, the
> staging, anything remotely connected to what you've been watching/listening
> to for the past 1.5 hours? But no, it's always the grandchildren and their
> seemingly peerless accomplishments in a seemingly never-ending game of
> understated (but more beneath the surface) one-upmanship. .
> Alice
> On Nov 5, 2014, at 1:49 PM, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>> By the way, do you know what the average folks in their 40's and 50's
>> chat
>> about over dinner? The ones I know, my kids, talk about their favorite TV
>> shows, the characters, the plots, the actors and actresses, how to access
>> previous episodes. I suppose they also watch the news, but they don't
>> dare
>> discuss it in front of me for fear that I might express some weird, way
>> out
>> opinion and we all want to avoid family arguments.
>>
>> Miriam
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Blind-Democracy [mailto:blind-democracy-bounces@octothorp.org] On
>> Behalf Of Carl Jarvis
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 11:58 AM
>> To: Blind Democracy Discussion List
>> Subject: Another Point I Made in 2012 that Is Even Truer after the 2014
>> Elections
>>
>> Ted and All,
>> You certainly can make a case that most Americans are more conservative
>> than
>> most folks on this list, But I would offer up another thought. What if
>> most
>> Americans have been so over loaded with misinformation that they vote
>> against what they are told is "The Problem", regardless of Party
>> preferences.
>> Back when Clinton and Obama won their first terms we might have said that
>> most Americans lean toward the Liberal side. But of course, you know as
>> well as I do that the public was reacting to the mess the previous
>> administration appeared to have made.
>> I think we're falling into the Empire's trap when we get all wrapped up
>> in
>> partisan politics. There is only one American Empire, and it controls
>> the
>> critical portion of both so-called Parties.
>> While I personally believe that the more money you can throw against an
>> issue or an opponent will tilt the playing field in your favor, there is
>> no
>> guarantee. But even if an issue is defeated or passed over your efforts,
>> or
>> a person you funded for an office, you still win because you have the
>> dollars to buy judges or get key people appointed to high, influential
>> positions. If you are in the grasp of the Empire, you are playing for
>> the
>> long haul. The average voter is playing for the short term gain. They
>> vote
>> for the person or the issue they believe will bring them relief.
>> Breaking
>> the labor unions is part of a carefully thought out plan to put an end to
>> long range planning by the Working Class.
>> So inn two years we may very well see the average American voter swing to
>> left of center...whatever that is anymore. But I don't kid myself into
>> believing that such a swing will prove that Americans are waking up to
>> the
>> oppression laid upon their backs by the Empire and the Capitalist System.
>> It is just a knee jerk reaction. Remember, we have been conditioned to
>> have
>> instant gratification. We have been given this wonderful thing called
>> Television. Following the pattern set by Radio, TV gives us the problem
>> and
>> solves it in either 30 or 60 minutes...including many commercials. We
>> have
>> been conditioned to expect instant solutions to our problems.
>> Here's an interesting question. How many hours of TV do you think the
>> members of the Ruling Class watch each week? And just to follow that one
>> up, what do you think the Ruling Class parents discuss at the dinner
>> table,
>> with their children? We average Americans have been led by the Empire's
>> Pied Piper into the land of fun and games. Remember Pinocchio and his
>> pals,
>> being fast talked into that fun land where they turned into donkeys.
>> There's a message there. Just ask any Jackass.
>>
>> Carl Jarvis
>>
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