Breaking News: Senate Narrowly Defeats Keystone XL Pipeline

Bob Et Al,
We know from election returns that Americans are pretty much split on
any issue as well as on just who to put in office. Yet when it comes
to a vote such as the X P Pipeline, it takes a super majority to pass.
In truth, this means that once in office, a minority vote can run the
government.
Personally, I'm dead opposed to that X P Pipeline, or any pipeline
snaking across our nation, especially since the refined oil will never
be used to benefit Americans. But 59 Senators disagreed with me.
However, by some Kindergarten rule, it takes a majority, majority to
pass such legislation.
In this vote it blocked the passage of a very harmful bill. But is
this the way we want to be represented? And besides that, we tax
payers will simply have to pay again when the new congress "debates"
and passes this dirty piece of legislation.
Will President Obama veto the bill, when it comes to his desk? Will
he listen to his "heart", or to the voice of his Masters? It doesn't
really matter, in so far as passage goes. Congress will most likely
pass it over his veto. Would a nay vote by Obama spoil his chances
for lucrative speaking engagements and book sales following his term?
Probably not to the extent that the Obama's would be hauling their
packing crates to the closest bridge.
But no matter what his heart, or lack thereof, Obama has more than
proven himself to be one of our weakest presidents...that is, weakest
when it comes to defending All Americans. I believe that he still has
the backroom support of the Empire.

Carl Jarvis

On 11/19/14, Bob Hachey <bhachey@verizon.net> wrote:
> Hi Miriam and all,
>
> Obviously, I don't want to see KXL built. But, let's step back a moment and
> recall all the times we here on this list railed against the injustice of
> the filibuster. The worst in my book occurred back in 2009 when the House
> and Obama wanted a much larger economic stimulus bill which the Republicans
> killed in the Senate via the filibuster. There were many other examples in
> that two-year period when the democrats had majorities in both House and
> senate. Now, the filibuster helped us keep KxL off the drawing board.
>
> Frankly, I wish that the Senate had taken an up or down vote on this issue
> long ago. Parts of what's wrong with Washington is all the game playing and
> manipulation. Let's see an up or down vote so that we really know where all
> the players stand.
>
> One more point. Assuming the next Conress passes KXL, Obama had better not
> sign the damned thing. IF he does, then the little respect that I still
> have
> for him will be gone for good. I gag when I hear media pundits blather on
> about how Obama needs to prove he will work with the Republicans by
> compromising. While that may be true on some issues like tax reform, it is
> not the case with KXL which I believe that he opposes in his heart of
> hearts
> if he has one. Being presidential sometimes means doing what you believe to
> be right even in the face of negative consequences.
>
> Bob Hachey
>
>
>
> From: Blind-Democracy [mailto:blind-democracy-bounces@octothorp.org] On
> Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 6:52 PM
> To: 'Blind Democracy Discussion List'
> Subject: FW: Breaking News: Senate Narrowly Defeats Keystone XL Pipeline
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: NYTimes.com News Alert [mailto:nytdirect@nytimes.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 6:25 PM
> To: miriamvieni@optonline.net
> Subject: Breaking News: Senate Narrowly Defeats Keystone XL Pipeline
>
>
> To ensure delivery to your inbox, please add nytdirect@nytimes.com
> <http://p.nytimes.com/email/re?location=4z5Q7LhI+KVBjmEgFdYACHCpQxp3Fo5Z&cam
> paign_id=132&instance_id=49441&segment_id=65522&user_id=ee6dc1be6959ed0c8c93
> 2767509c6d57&regi_id=26485907> to your address book.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <http://p.nytimes.com/email/re?location=4z5Q7LhI+KVBjmEgFdYACKqxdqYf5TwZRlcq
> aJDmNgZR6U1YR0oha5lYUWuHivq5&campaign_id=132&instance_id=49441&segment_id=65
> 522&user_id=ee6dc1be6959ed0c8c932767509c6d57&regi_id=26485907> The New York
> Times
>
> |
>
>
> <http://p.nytimes.com/email/re?location=4z5Q7LhI+KVBjmEgFdYACKqxdqYf5TwZRlcq
> aJDmNgZR6U1YR0oha5lYUWuHivq5&campaign_id=132&instance_id=49441&segment_id=65
> 522&user_id=ee6dc1be6959ed0c8c932767509c6d57&regi_id=26485907> BREAKING
> NEWS
> ALERT
>
>
>
> <http://p.nytimes.com/email/re?location=4z5Q7LhI+KVBjmEgFdYACKqxdqYf5TwZRlcq
> aJDmNgZR6U1YR0oha5lYUWuHivq5&campaign_id=132&instance_id=49441&segment_id=65
> 522&user_id=ee6dc1be6959ed0c8c932767509c6d57&regi_id=26485907> NYTimes.com
>
> |
>
>
> <http://www.nytimes.com/gst/unsub.html?email=miriamvieni@optonline.net&id=26
> 485907&segment=65522&group=nl&product=NA> Unsubscribe
>
>
>
>
>
> BREAKING NEWS
>
> Tuesday, November 18, 2014 6:25 PM EST
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <http://p.nytimes.com/email/re?location=4z5Q7LhI+KVBjmEgFdYACPLKh239P3pgS2F2
> gJpxLCChCKmWixFVcXs55FuNy6k0mfIndlgLmjnlKEfdPyVBJrdBbxVUeUo8RlcqaJDmNgZR6U1Y
> R0oha5lYUWuHivq5&campaign_id=132&instance_id=49441&segment_id=65522&user_id=
> ee6dc1be6959ed0c8c932767509c6d57&regi_id=26485907> Senate Narrowly Defeats
> Keystone XL Pipeline
>
>
> Senate Democrats narrowly defeated a bill 59 to 41 that would have approved
> the construction of the Keystone XL oil pipeline, rebuffing their
> Democratic
> colleague, Senator Mary L. Landrieu of Louisiana, who had hoped to muscle
> the legislation through in advance of her uphill runoff election fight back
> home.
>
>
> The battle over approving the pipeline, which would carry petroleum from
> the
> oil sands of Canada to the Gulf Coast of Texas, ultimately became a proxy
> war for the Louisiana Senate seat, where Ms. Landrieu and Republican
> Representative Bill Cassidy are locked in fight for votes in their oil-rich
> state ahead of the Dec. 6 runoff election.
>
>
>
> READ MORE >
>
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/19/us/politics/keystone-xl-pipeline.html?emc=
> edit_na_20141118
> <http://p.nytimes.com/email/re?location=4z5Q7LhI+KVBjmEgFdYACPLKh239P3pgS2F2
> gJpxLCChCKmWixFVcXs55FuNy6k0mfIndlgLmjnlKEfdPyVBJrdBbxVUeUo8RlcqaJDmNgZR6U1Y
> R0oha5lYUWuHivq5&campaign_id=132&instance_id=49441&segment_id=65522&user_id=
> ee6dc1be6959ed0c8c932767509c6d57&regi_id=26485907>
>
>
>
>
>
> ADVERTISEMENT
>
>
>
>
> <http://Z.GLAKA.COM/click?s=62659&t=newsletter&sz=300x250&li=BreakingNews&m=
> EE6DC1BE6959ED0C8C932767509C6D57&p=2014.11.18.23.25.30>
>
>
>
> <http://Z.GLAKA.COM/imp?s=62660&t=newsletter&sz=1x1&li=BreakingNews&m=EE6DC1
> BE6959ED0C8C932767509C6D57&p=2014.11.18.23.25.30>
>
>
> <http://Z.GLAKA.COM/imp?s=62661&t=newsletter&sz=1x1&li=BreakingNews&m=EE6DC1
> BE6959ED0C8C932767509C6D57&p=2014.11.18.23.25.30>
>
>
>
> <http://Z.GLAKA.COM/click?s=2297&t=newsletter&sz=116x15&li=BreakingNews&m=EE
> 6DC1BE6959ED0C8C932767509C6D57&p=2014.11.18.23.25.30>
>
>
> <http://Z.GLAKA.COM/click?s=2298&t=newsletter&sz=69x15&li=BreakingNews&m=EE6
> DC1BE6959ED0C8C932767509C6D57&p=2014.11.18.23.25.30>
>
>
>
>
>
> <http://Z.GLAKA.COM/imp?s=62662&t=newsletter&sz=2x1&li=BreakingNews&m=EE6DC1
> BE6959ED0C8C932767509C6D57&p=2014.11.18.23.25.30>
>
>
> <http://Z.GLAKA.COM/imp?s=62663&t=newsletter&sz=2x1&li=BreakingNews&m=EE6DC1
> BE6959ED0C8C932767509C6D57&p=2014.11.18.23.25.30>
>
>
> <http://Z.GLAKA.COM/imp?s=62664&t=newsletter&sz=2x1&li=BreakingNews&m=EE6DC1
> BE6959ED0C8C932767509C6D57&p=2014.11.18.23.25.30>
>
>
> <http://Z.GLAKA.COM/imp?s=62665&t=newsletter&sz=2x1&li=BreakingNews&m=EE6DC1
> BE6959ED0C8C932767509C6D57&p=2014.11.18.23.25.30>
>
>
> <http://Z.GLAKA.COM/imp?s=62666&t=newsletter&sz=2x1&li=BreakingNews&m=EE6DC1
> BE6959ED0C8C932767509C6D57&p=2014.11.18.23.25.30>
>
>
> <http://Z.GLAKA.COM/imp?s=62667&t=newsletter&sz=2x1&li=BreakingNews&m=EE6DC1
> BE6959ED0C8C932767509C6D57&p=2014.11.18.23.25.30>
>
>
> <http://Z.GLAKA.COM/imp?s=62668&t=newsletter&sz=2x1&li=BreakingNews&m=EE6DC1
> BE6959ED0C8C932767509C6D57&p=2014.11.18.23.25.30>
>
>
> <http://Z.GLAKA.COM/imp?s=62669&t=newsletter&sz=2x1&li=BreakingNews&m=EE6DC1
> BE6959ED0C8C932767509C6D57&p=2014.11.18.23.25.30>
>
>
> <http://Z.GLAKA.COM/imp?s=62670&t=newsletter&sz=2x1&li=BreakingNews&m=EE6DC1
> BE6959ED0C8C932767509C6D57&p=2014.11.18.23.25.30>
>
>
> <http://Z.GLAKA.COM/imp?s=62671&t=newsletter&sz=2x1&li=BreakingNews&m=EE6DC1
> BE6959ED0C8C932767509C6D57&p=2014.11.18.23.25.30>
>
>
> <http://Z.GLAKA.COM/imp?s=62672&t=newsletter&sz=2x1&li=BreakingNews&m=EE6DC1
> BE6959ED0C8C932767509C6D57&p=2014.11.18.23.25.30>
>
>
> <http://Z.GLAKA.COM/imp?s=62673&t=newsletter&sz=2x1&li=BreakingNews&m=EE6DC1
> BE6959ED0C8C932767509C6D57&p=2014.11.18.23.25.30>
>
>
> <http://pixel.monitor1.returnpath.net/pixel.gif?r=9dbaad520ccf62ad66a806f22f
> 1f3b4689e74e0c&s=miriamvieni@optonline.net&id=26485907&gender=0>
>
>
>
> FOLLOW US:
>
> Twitter
> <http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/article/functions/twitter.gif>
>
>
>
> <http://p.nytimes.com/email/re?location=4z5Q7LhI+KWkqACYTXC750bgRZRyRovPJIEX
> YIwmphMhsceygzyJu29NpehnSEEopW4X28b//Hw9N126Wt7ZuA==&campaign_id=132&instanc
> e_id=49441&segment_id=65522&user_id=ee6dc1be6959ed0c8c932767509c6d57&regi_id
> =26485907> @NYTimes
>
> |
>
> Facebook
> <http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/icons/sharetools/classic/facebook.gif>
>
>
>
> <http://p.nytimes.com/email/re?location=4z5Q7LhI+KWmuacvKaClnScR5XC3Nq7OzJ3a
> Y8D5xuztsiw8wiydwih+6YpVRsJcp9JdIdbWSTpbhAIXGzNYmw==&campaign_id=132&instanc
> e_id=49441&segment_id=65522&user_id=ee6dc1be6959ed0c8c932767509c6d57&regi_id
> =26485907> Facebook
>
>
>
>
>
> For breaking news on your mobile device, go to
> <http://p.nytimes.com/email/re?location=XzzrGg+iKs9YRj28EbS+JZqSgyyIS3CdRlcq
> aJDmNgZR6U1YR0oha5lYUWuHivq5&campaign_id=132&instance_id=49441&segment_id=65
> 522&user_id=ee6dc1be6959ed0c8c932767509c6d57&regi_id=26485907> m.nyt.com >
>
>
>
> <http://p.nytimes.com/email/re?location=4z5Q7LhI+KVBjmEgFdYACKqxdqYf5TwZIbHH
> soM8ibtvTaXoZ0hBKKVuF9vG//x8PTddulre2bg=&campaign_id=132&instance_id=49441&s
> egment_id=65522&user_id=ee6dc1be6959ed0c8c932767509c6d57&regi_id=26485907>
> NYT
>
> Access The New York Times from anywhere with our suite of apps:
> iPhone
> <http://p.nytimes.com/email/re?location=pMJKdIFVI6rQ1A83aF/Jg7/jh3WgNi7QC3By
> iIlXfeyrM7pHW6Nf0YR2ZYH3dsmtEsAl7dga78yL6JFK19p6o+hhB8ykGYZz&campaign_id=132
> &instance_id=49441&segment_id=65522&user_id=ee6dc1be6959ed0c8c932767509c6d57
> &regi_id=26485907> R | iPad
> <http://p.nytimes.com/email/re?location=pMJKdIFVI6rQ1A83aF/Jg7/jh3WgNi7QC3By
> iIlXfeyrM7pHW6Nf0aeI6OX4PrLsH+x+BGVRjPrTK+6nwkWAZmxECYpgphj+&campaign_id=132
> &instance_id=49441&segment_id=65522&user_id=ee6dc1be6959ed0c8c932767509c6d57
> &regi_id=26485907> R | Android
> <http://p.nytimes.com/email/re?location=pMJKdIFVI6rUh2PW8hSxDWaBY9XU8GQKtWNz
> HdH3en9ZHcSRhJ2hEmDwszquUW3CIOwqcCRo5H9ukhmkhh6HKYf91At3OSX4XuXVqLUBJbs61squ
> NiQonUgEfZzB7Yje0tm2Ooiy/S5dJFqVEKZ7GBc7Bpqh/PZz&campaign_id=132&instance_id
> =49441&segment_id=65522&user_id=ee6dc1be6959ed0c8c932767509c6d57&regi_id=264
> 85907> | All
> <http://p.nytimes.com/email/re?location=4z5Q7LhI+KVBjmEgFdYACDuqzkg7rwCI6o0M
> KWD0L+R/dy2cD6PGiMA+x7BjGIifmXtrOBE/zsi91BRk03Bp2mxECYpgphj+&campaign_id=132
> &instance_id=49441&segment_id=65522&user_id=ee6dc1be6959ed0c8c932767509c6d57
> &regi_id=26485907>
>
>
>
>
>
> About This Email
>
>
> This is an automated email. Please do not reply directly to this email.
>
> You received this message because you signed up for NYTimes.com's breaking
> news alerts. As a member of the TRUSTe privacy program, we are committed to
> protecting your privacy.
>
> Unsubscribe
> <http://www.nytimes.com/gst/unsub.html?email=miriamvieni@optonline.net&id=26
> 485907&segment=65522&group=nl&product=NA> | Manage Subscriptions
> <http://p.nytimes.com/email/re?location=4z5Q7LhI+KVBjmEgFdYACHjdnNiNT4YKoxod
> 5S8PmJHLwSaYHKQ3OoW+Ockj4gmL2z0Sc/mSSK0=&campaign_id=132&instance_id=49441&s
> egment_id=65522&user_id=ee6dc1be6959ed0c8c932767509c6d57&regi_id=26485907>
> | Change Your Email
> <http://p.nytimes.com/email/re?location=pMJKdIFVI6rcMVYYXia0CswGfPcU3iP2Bbbo
> DbCax1YCgTSJ+ur9HWzXi1VU9xZiy8EmmBykNzqFvjnJI+IJi9s9EnP5kkit&campaign_id=132
> &instance_id=49441&segment_id=65522&user_id=ee6dc1be6959ed0c8c932767509c6d57
> &regi_id=26485907> | Privacy Policy
> <http://p.nytimes.com/email/re?location=4z5Q7LhI+KVBjmEgFdYACMlEhIhWVuPIxgan
> fKahJGpDcKtdpfztygcexoigFj8dX+EMGUu62OTaaiHAHzlw2EZXKmiQ5jYGUelNWEdKIWuZWFFr
> h4r6uQ==&campaign_id=132&instance_id=49441&segment_id=65522&user_id=ee6dc1be
> 6959ed0c8c932767509c6d57&regi_id=26485907> | Contact
> <http://p.nytimes.com/email/re?location=4z5Q7LhI+KVBjmEgFdYACDE6h1nWlLhfgdX2
> Y/OzTy3J7c0AmM08e7ziiNbylE13sP5ku+sbDLgjEe9PMPAFMUJzhTEwqtoPG/ft8gXI4cpOi4Tl
> pBUihQ==&campaign_id=132&instance_id=49441&segment_id=65522&user_id=ee6dc1be
> 6959ed0c8c932767509c6d57&regi_id=26485907>
>
>
> Copyright 2014 | The New York Times Company |NYTimes.com 620 Eighth Avenue
> New York, NY 10018
>
>
>
>
> <http://p.nytimes.com/email/re?location=hdaNaYedr2/IomeWRKt0nffrak8aSGLbvtkk
> q/r7ihwOf5XePlpJ1w==&campaign_id=132&instance_id=49441&segment_id=65522&user
> _id=ee6dc1be6959ed0c8c932767509c6d57&regi_id=26485907>
>
>