Friday, November 7, 2014

The Big Contradiction: American Bombs Dropping On Extremist Group Funded By U.S. Allies: What's good for the weapons industry is good for America!

Yes, Miriam. I had drafted a long, brilliant reply to the string, and
suddenly my generator hiccupped and power clicked off and then back
on, causing both Cathy's and my computers to shut down. When that
happens, no matter how I try, I cannot recover the lost email.
But I'm sure I've covered everything I wrote, a thousand times over.
I'm beginning to sound like a broken record. Which makes me wonder
how many younger folks on this list even know what a broken record is?

Carl Jarvis

On 11/6/14, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@optonline.net> wrote:
> Carl, I think you were trying to reply to my message or Ted's, but I don't
> see your reply.
>
> Miriam
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Blind-Democracy [mailto:blind-democracy-bounces@octothorp.org] On
> Behalf Of Carl Jarvis
> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 8:36 PM
> To: Blind Democracy Discussion List
> Subject: The Big Contradiction: American Bombs Dropping On Extremist Group
> Funded By U.S. Allies: What's good for the weapons industry is good for
> America!
>
> On 11/6/14, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@optonline.net> wrote:
>> Do you really think it's asking too much to ask that social security
>> and medicare benefits not be cut and that our government and business
>> leaders take the future of humankind on this planet into account when
>> proposing pipelines and increased oil drilling? Are you suggesting
>> that these kinds of concerns are unreasonable and that there's a
>> realistic compromise that can be made when considering them?
>>
>> Miriam
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Blind-Democracy [mailto:blind-democracy-bounces@octothorp.org]
>> On Behalf Of ted chittenden
>> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 10:47 AM
>> To: Blind Democracy Discussion List
>> Subject: RE: Election Night
>>
>> If you want it all, then you're going to be lost whether you sit or
>> fight.
>> However, if you do fight, some crumbs may be thrown your way.
>> --
>> Ted Chittenden
>>
>> Every story has at least two sides if not more.
>> ---- Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@optonline.net> wrote:
>> I don't know how we can insist on anything. However, the political
>> columnist from the Nation said yesterday, that activists will have to
>> fight hard because all of the issues; social security, medicare, the
>> pipeline, Obama will go ahead with all of them with congress now
>> unless people fight back. Now I remember his name, John Nichols. He
>> said that if we just sit back now and let it all happen, we're lost.
>>
>> Miriam
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Blind-Democracy [mailto:blind-democracy-bounces@octothorp.org]
>> On Behalf Of Bob Hachey
>> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 2:32 AM
>> To: 'Blind Democracy Discussion List'
>> Subject: RE: Election Night
>>
>> IF the conservatives want corporate tax reform or reductions, we
>> should insist upon minimum wage hikes.
>> Also, seems that both sides could agree on Glass-steagall.
>> But, you are correct in that we will se more of the same trend that's
>> been plaguing us for 25 or 30 years.
>> WE did get localized minimum wage increases.
>> Bob
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Blind-Democracy [mailto:blind-democracy-bounces@octothorp.org]
>> On Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 6:35 PM
>> To: 'Blind Democracy Discussion List'
>> Subject: RE: Election Night
>>
>> Well, it is making me ill. I listened to NPR just now as Nina
>> Totenberg cheerfully talked about how the president and congress can
>> at least agree on trade and some corporate tax reform. She and the
>> others were going on and on about how nice it will be if they all
>> agree to get something done. Well, no, it won't be nice unless the
>> something they agree to do benefits real people.
>> Trade? That means all the trade agreements. We should be happy that
>> they'll agree to pass them because that means they're doing something
>> rather than nothing?
>>
>> Miriam
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Blind-Democracy [mailto:blind-democracy-bounces@octothorp.org]
>> On Behalf Of Bob Hachey
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 5:41 PM
>> To: 'Blind Democracy Discussion List'
>> Subject: RE: Election Night
>>
>> Hi Miriam,
>> A few reasons why the Republicans shouldn't celebrate too much over
>> taking control of the Senate.
>> 1. Now they have to do more than chirp about what's wrong with Obama.
>> And, if they do lots of impeachment and Gestapo-style oversight
>> hearings that will bite them in 2016.
>> 2. IN 2014, most of the seats up for grabs were held by Democrats. In
>> 2016, most are held by Republicans.
>> One thing that is disturbing here. Seems like the pendulum keeps
>> swinging back and forth every two years but we get no real progress on
>> economic issues like better wages. Also, we are acting more and more
>> like an evil empire as time goes buy.
>> Seems like maybe this is all part of the larger plan being controlled
>> by the ruling class. Massachusetts now has a Republican governor,
>> Charlie Baker.
>> I've dudubbed him the OIC. That is, the Outsourcer In Chief.
>> WE are one of the few states whose entire Congressional delegation is
>> Democratic.
>> Bob Hachey
>>
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