----- Original Message -----From: GigiTo: Abby VincentCc: acb-chat@acb.orgSent: Monday, April 11, 2011 5:06 PMSubject: Re: [acb-chat] Aborting a fetus solely because itwill have a disability.And, by the same token, Abby, et al, illustrate the truth about what happens during an abortion. Show how the baby 'cringes' when something comes near....I'll spare you the detail. Show the different methods used to end a preborn baby's life, and further, what's done...well, not done, when the baby survives!!
THEN, see how many still consider it a choice.
Was a time, in high school, when I didn't know what that precious baby goes through before it dies, I didn't think one way or another about abortion. Once I learned, OMG, I just couldn't support what SHOULD be the embarrassment of our society--killing infants at our convenience!!
Gigi
----- Original Message -----
From: "Abby Vincent" <aevincent@ca.rr.com>
To: "Ken Metz" <kenmetz@dslextreme.com>, "Kevin Minor" <kminor@windstream.net>, acb-chat@acb.org
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 6:43:38 PM
Subject: Re: [acb-chat] Aborting a fetus solely because it will have a disability.I'd like to see parents get some realistic information about what it is like to have a disability as a child and as an adult. The way it's been for years, women get the prenatal tests for certain abnormalities in the unborn child. If they are found, they get to have the pregnancy terminated, even if it's a late term pregnancy. Perhaps we should advocate that if parents will become parents of a blind baby, they should see a video, audio-described of course, showing that living with blindness isn't the end of the world. ACB, of course, should produce the video. Then they can make an informed choice about abortion or blind baby.
Abby
From: acb-chat-bounces@acb.org [mailto:acb-chat-bounces@acb.org] On Behalf Of Ken Metz
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 3:13 PM
To: 'Kevin Minor'; acb-chat@acb.org
Subject: Re: [acb-chat] Aborting a fetus solely because it will have a disability.
Hi Kevin and all.
Years ago I might have agreed with you. However, today, I'd have to say that it should be the right of both parents married or not, to make a decision on an abortion based on a disability. This may sound harsh, but the way that blind and disabled children are being taught in today's world, that decision must be the parents. How many blind folks of employment age are working? How many blind folks are getting the proper vocational rehabilitation services today that they require for top notch training? How many blind children are really receiving what they need in education with the numerous state schools for the blind being shut down? And, how many parents of blind children are really involved in their young lives to help make them productive?
Of course, I don't mean all, but those who don't care to be responsible for having children when they're not ready
or who just walk away from them are going to leave them with who, and then what happens to them?
KEN
From: acb-chat-bounces@acb.org [mailto:acb-chat-bounces@acb.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 10:58 AM
To: acb-chat@acb.org
Subject: [acb-chat] Aborting a fetus solely because it will have a disability.
Hi again.
I can accept to a point that a woman should have the right to choose what happens to her, but let's look at this in another way. Suppose there were a test that could show a fetus would be born blind or with limited vision. The mother has the means to raise the child, and she decides to abort the fetus solely because it were going to have a disability. Should she have the right to choose an abortion in this case? Look at how society views blind people. They fear losing their vision very much. If these people could be found out before they were born then wouldn't aborting these individuals be a good option?
I'm intentionally playing devil's advocate here. I think that abortions are being used too often as a convenience rather than children being born in situations where they will die slowly.
Just my thoughts.
Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY
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film on Aborting a fetus; good viewing for pregnant girls?
While we are showing what it is like to have an abortion, let us also show what it is like for a young girl to be forced into sex and then after that trauma show how she gets to be the one carrying the baby and the shame and the curses of her parents. For heaven sake, does anyone care about the children who are being victimized? What are we going to do, grab some little girl who has been raped or forced into sex and make her watch what will happen if she even thinks of aborting the fetus? We are some pieces of work!
Curious Carl
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