who's got the power?

Claude, 

Right.  What does it matter who is sitting in the office when the lobbyist has all the real power? 

 

Carl Jarvis

----- Original Message -----

From: Claude Everett

To: 'Blind Democracy Discussion List'

Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 10:27 PM

Subject: RE: H.J.Res. 15:

Yep!  you are right.  Speaking as a resident of a state where term limits are a fact of life, the special interests and logiest run the government.  Their spin on issues and access assures what they want they get.

 

Claude Everett
"First of all:  what is work?
Work is of two kinds:
  first, altering the position of matter at or near the earth's surface relatively to other such matter;
 second, telling other people to do so.
  The first kind is unpleasant and ill paid; the second is pleasant and highly paid."
From The collection of essays "In Praise of Idleness" by Bertrand Russell
 

 

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From: blind-democracy-bounces@octothorp.org [mailto:blind-democracy-bounces@octothorp.org] On Behalf Of Bob Hachey
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 10:14 PM
To: Blind Democracy Discussion List
Subject: Re: H.J.Res. 15:

Hi Carl,

Firstly, taking away term limits gives the president way too much power.

Could you imagine an Obama third term? How about a reagan or Clinton third term?

AS for Congress, each district has more say as to whether or not members get to keep serving than does a president who gains more power.

Given some of the behavior of Congressional leaders on both sides, I'm rethinking that perhaps we ought to have term limits for Congress, 5 terms for a house member and three terms for a senator, perhaps?

But, as we know, what we really need is to get the money out of politics and increase voter participation. Until we do those things, it won't matter much whether or not we have term limits.

Bob Hachey

----- Original Message -----

From: Carl Jarvis

To: Blind Democracy Discussion List

Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 7:31 PM

Subject: Re: H.J.Res. 15:

Why oppose term limits, but support them for the one person who should not be under such restraints? 

There must be some leverage by the nation's leader.  Obama can make all the great speeches he wants, but he knows that his effectiveness is nearing an end...if he ever did have any. 

He wins the election for a second term and begins to move directly toward the square marked "Lame Duck". 

Did I mention that I am once again convinced that Obama is preparing to sign the oil pipeline legislation?  He's a real candy ass, regardless of his brains or his speaking ability. 

I swear Obama is the identical twin of Bill Clinton.  Sitting in that oval office nodding and grinning at the thought that they just pulled the wool over the eyes of those stupid Americans. 

 

Carl Jarvis

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Bob Hachey

To: Blind Democracy Discussion List

Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 2:52 PM

Subject: Re: H.J.Res. 15:

Hi Dick,

Once again, thanks for sending.

While I oppose term limints for congress, I think the two-term limit for president is a good idea.

Bob Hachey

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