Monday, June 21, 2010

are there really 20 million undocumented people living in America?

A message from Michael, a blind lister on the ACB list.  Followed by my response. 
Curious Carl
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What if 20 Million Illegal Aliens Vacated America? (Note: ILLEGAL - here
without papers)



I, Tina Griego, journalist for the Denver Rocky Mountain News wrote a

column titled, 'Mexican Visitor's Lament' -- 10/25/07.



I interviewed Mexican journalist Evangelina Hernandez while visiting

Denver last week.

Hernandez said, 'They (illegal aliens) pay rent, buy groceries, buy
clothes.

.What Happens to your country's economy if 20 million people go away?'
Hummm

I thought, what would happen, so I did my due diligence, buried my nose as

a reporter into the FACTS I found below.



It's a good question - it deserves an honest answer. Over 80% of Americans

demand secured borders and illegal migration stopped. But what would happen
if all 20 million or more vacated America?



The answers I found may surprise you!



In California, if 3.5 million illegal aliens moved back to Mexico,

it would leave an extra $10.2 billion to spend on overloaded school
systems,

bankrupt hospitals and overrun prisons. It would leave highways cleaner,

safer and less congested. Everyone could understand one another as English

became the dominant language again.



In Colorado, 500,000 illegal migrants, plus their 300,000 kids and

Grand-kids - would move back 'home', mostly to Mexico. That would save

Coloradans an estimated $2 billion (other experts say $7 billion) annually

in taxes that pay for schooling, medical, social-services and incarceration

costs.



It means 12,000 gang members would vanish out of Denver alone.



Colorado would save more than $20 million in prison costs, and the

Terror that those 7,300 alien criminals set upon local citizens. Denver

Officer Don Young and hundreds of Colorado victims would not have suffered

death, accidents, rapes and other crimes by illegal's.



Denver Public Schools would not suffer a 67 percent

Drop-out/flunk-out rate because of thousands of illegal alien students

speaking 41 different languages. At least 200,000 vehicles would vanish
from

our gridlocked cities in Colorado. Denver's 4% unemployment rate would

vanish as our working poor would gain jobs at a living wage.





In Florida, 1.5 million illegal's would return the Sunshine State

back to America, the rule of law, and English.



In Chicago, Illinois, 2.1 million illegal's would free up hospitals

schools, prisons and highways for a safer, cleaner and more crime-free

experience.



If 20 million illegal aliens returned 'home' --



If 20 million illegal aliens returned 'home', the U.S. Economy would

return to the rule of law. Employers would hire legal American citizens at
a

living wage. Everyone would pay their fair share of taxes because they

wouldn't be working off the books. That would result in an additional $401

Billion in IRS income taxes collected annually, and an equal amount for

local, state and city coffers.



No more push '1' for Spanish or '2' for English. No more confusion in

American schools that now must contend with over 100 languages that degrade

the educational system for American kids. Our over-crowded schools would

lose more than two million illegal alien kids at a cost of billions in ESL
and free breakfasts and lunches.



We would lose 500,000 illegal criminal alien inmates at a cost of

more than $1.6 billion annually. That includes 15,000 MS-13 gang members
who

distribute $130 billion in drugs annually would vacate our country.



In cities like L.A., 20,000 members of the ' 18th Street Gang'

would vanish from our nation. No more Mexican forgery gangs for ID theft

from Americans! No more foreign rapists and child molesters!



Losing more than 20 million people would clear up our crowded

highways and gridlock. Cleaner air and less drinking and driving American

deaths by illegal aliens!

America's economy is drained. Taxpayers are harmed!. Employers get rich.
Over $80 billion annually wouldn't return to the aliens' home countries by
cash transfers. Illegal migrants earned half that money untaxed which
further drains America's economy - which currently suffers an $8.7 trillion
debt.



At least 400,000 anchor babies would not be born in our country,

costing us $109 billion per year per cycle. At least 86 hospitals in

California, Georgia and Florida would still be operating instead of being

bankrupt out of existence because illegal's pay nothing via the EMTOLA Act.



Americans wouldn't suffer thousands of TB and hepatitis cases rampant

in our country-brought in by illegal's unscreened at our borders.



Our cities would see 20 million less people driving, polluting and

grid locking our cities. It would also put the 'progressives' on the horns

of a dilemma; illegal aliens and their families cause 11 percent of our

greenhouse gases.



Over one million of Mexico's poorest citizens now live inside and

Along our border from Brownsville, Texas to San Diego, California in

what the New York Times called, 'colonias' or new neighborhoods. Trouble
is,

those living areas resemble Bombay and Calcutta where grinding poverty,

filth, diseases, drugs, crimes, no sanitation and worse. They live without

sewage, clean water, streets, electricity, roads or any kind of sanitation.



The New York Times reported them to be America's new Third World ' inside
our own country. Within 20 years, at their current growth rate, they expect

20 million residents of those colonias.



(I've seen them personally in Texas and Arizona; it's sickening beyond

anything you can imagine.)



By enforcing our laws, we could repatriate them back to Mexico. We should

invite 20 million aliens to go home, fix their own countries and/or make a

better life in Mexico. We already invite a million

people into our country legally more than all other countries combined
annually. W e cannot and must not allow anarchy at our borders, more
anarchy

within our borders and growing lawlessness at every level in our nation. It

s time to stand up for our country, our culture, our civilization and our
way of life.



Interesting Statistics!



Here are 14 reasons illegal aliens should vacate America, and I hope they

are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that
the

reader gets sick of reading them:



1. $14 billion to $22 billion dollars are spent each year on welfare

to illegal aliens.



(that's Billion with a 'B') - http://tinyurl.com/zob77



2... $2.2 billion dollars are spent each year on food assistance

programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal

aliens. - http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html



3. $7.5 billion dollars are spent each year on Medicaid for illegal

Aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html



4. $12 billion dollars are spent each year on primary and secondary

school education for children here illegally and they still cannot speak a

word of English! http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html



5. $27 billion dollars are spent each year for education for the

American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies. -

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html



6. $3 Million Dollars 'PER DAY' i! s spent to incarcerate illegal

aliens. That's $1.2 Billion a year. http://transcripts.cnn/

com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html



7. 28% percent of all federal prison inmates are illegal aliens.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html



8. $190 billion dollars are spent each year on illegal aliens for

welfare & social services by the American taxpayers. - http://transcripts/

cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html



9. $200 billion dollars per year in suppressed American wages are

caused by the illegal aliens.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html



10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's

two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their

children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US. -

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html



11. During the year 2005, there were 8 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens

that crossed our southern border with as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from

other terrorist countries. Over 10,000 of those were middle-eastern

terrorists. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroine, crack,
Guns

and marijuana crossed into the U.S. from the southern border. -

http://tinyurl.com/t9sht

12... The National Policy Institute, estimates that the total cost of

mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion, or an average cost

of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.& nbsp; -

http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute...org/publications.php?b=deportation





13. In 2006, illegal aliens sent home $65 BILLION in remittances back

to their countries of origin, to their families & friends.
http://www.rense/

com/general75/niht.htm



14. The dark side of illegal immigration: Nearly one million sex

crimes are committed by illegal immigrants in the United States!' -

http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml



Total cost a whopping $538.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR!!!
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Michael,
 
If you are an undocumented person(Illegal), where do you go to register so that the government can get an accurate count?  Is there a toll-free confidential telephone number somewhere, posted in places where undocumented folks hang out? 
But beyond that, these figures are so bogus that they are meaningless.  It's like our figure of 70% unemployment among blind people.  Just numbers that have been around for such a long time that they take on a life of their own.  But anyway, numbers give us a sense that we have a handle on the problem.  In reality numbers block us from seeing the problem.  What does it matter if we are 70% or 50% or 30% unemployed as blind people?  What we should be focused on is that blind people have been disenfranchised.  It's a far deeper problem than merely 70% unemployment.  It is our entire access into "mainstream" America. 
And so it is with all the figures quoted in your article.  Even if they were close to true, and many of them are so convoluted that they reflect nothing, but even if true they do not get at the problem or suggest even the beginning of a solution. 
Your numbers are laid out for one purpose, and one purpose alone, to excite anger and to divide the American people. 
But let's assume that there really are 20 million undocumented people creeping around our land, sucking up all of our resources.  Are they really bringing this nation to its knees?  What about the trillions we are handing over to the military and to the Wall Street crooks and the Captains of Industry?  What about the billions of our tax dollars that they are shoveling off into hidden off-shore banks, as they pack up their factories and put them in such democratic nations as China.  And the sort of jobs we blind folks might have had a shot at, jobs like the customer service type of work, are being out sourced to the more deserving folks in India and the Philippines. 
Remember the slight-of-hand artist who could move the three shells around and you could never point out the one with the pea under it?  Of course we learned the hard way that the pea was not under any of them.  The fellow palmed it and slipped it back under our very eyes.  And so it is with our own Wizards of Oz, those First Class Corporate American Citizens.  They move the shells about, pointing to those horrid welfare Moms, those wicked socialists, the illiterate Blacks, the illegal's, the Muslims and on and on and on.  They are our Pied Pipers, leading us merrily down the path to self destruction. 
So Michael, Mister Messenger, do you believe this message of yours?  I don't. 
 
Curious Carl

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